Canada would be uninhabitable to all but the hardiest few -- those who are willing to chop wood -- or who have the land and resources to build "earth ship" style houses or other types of architecture which blend massively thick thermal mass with passive and active solar and other forms of alternative energy. Alternative energy, by itself, isn't going to support Canada's current population. There will be a massive migration to warmer climates, or a massive die-off, or a bit of both. But there is a resilient core of pioneer types who will roll through the end of fossil fuels just fine -- Canada post fossil fuel will once again resemble the Canada of the 1800's. On a more positive note, all the gibme's and rapeugees will leave.
There are some fun 'heat hacks' that permaculture nerds like myself might also add in there like seasonal large compost thermal output heated radiant floor heating, biogas systems and thermoelectric generators used in conjunction with a wood burning stove.
Though at the end of the day, I have the low-no tech gear and experience to be able to survive and thrive here without any fancy gadgets or elaborate systems if need be.
I just found the article title to be ridiculous and the total lack of mentioning the pre-colonial inhabitants of the land mass now called "Canada" to be either ignorant and/or arrogant.
I mean this land has been inhabited for thousands of years long before people started building oil wells and oil refineries.
Yes, I've played with "hot beds" to keep winter greens alive throughout the winter. An attached greenhouse with delicately balanced hot beds would be a unique source for a passive geothermal heat pump. But you need a LOT of manure ... something our globalist overlords seem determined to eliminate with their war on farming and ranching. Of course, you could supplement with humanure, but no town government would allow that for "health" reasons ... you'd have to be way off in the sticks to get away with such ingenuity.
For all their talk of "mitigating climate change", our globalist overlords act the OPPOSITE of what actually works to prevent the "global threat" they purport to need our tax dollars and enslavement to prevent.
Nickola Tesla invented free energy for the world, died a pulper, and his formulas vanished. He was one, the most well known, but there have been others, their discoveries all suppressed as well. There shouldn't even be a discussion of fossil fuels or not.
Holy Swiss Cheese of nonsense you’ve posted here! I can hardly begin, every paragraph has an unsupported claim. But, this is the sexiest: “The first hydroelectric generating station was built in Quebec in 1885. Canada is the third largest hydro generator in the world. Dams, water, and turbines supply 60% of the country’s electricity. Manitoba has great hydro resources from Northern regions, the province’s portion of the Canadian Shield. But where the land is flat, like Alberta and Saskatchewan, hydro only supplies up to 5.5% and 13% respectively.”
Really? Are you very sure about that? I’d say NO WAY!
Why do you doubt it? As a Quebecois, i find it offensive that you think it is hilarious that someone might believe that Quebec had a hydoelectric generating station three years after Edison commisioned one in US. Here is the information.
Indeed, in 1885, a first hydropower generating station became operational near Montmorency Falls to provide lighting to the city of Québec. Three years later, a hydropower generating station was built in Sherbrooke. In 1897, the Saint-Narcisse generating station provided power to the city of Trois-Rivières. At the time, the 27-kilometer transmission line was the longest in the entire British Empire.
In Montréal, in 1892, the first hydropower generating station was built on the Lachine Canal. In 1901, businessmen founded Montreal Light, Heat and Power. Through purchases and company mergers, it quickly became the sole distributor of electricity in the city. Elsewhere, Shawinigan Water and Power, founded in 1898, quickly took control of the Mauricie region and by 1903 was delivering electricity to the Montréal region. For many years, these two companies would remain the most important players in the electrical industry in Quebec.
The video Michelle offered is only 20 mins - it's showing areas of developed waterways from another lifetime or historical time of life on earth...
It has been often spoken of that we've reached a level of technological advancement at least 7 times... is it possible humanity could stand to discover once again the connection through spirit with all things on Earth and each other?
We were allowed to view the Roman Aquaduct's as there are many places they still stand - Egyptian pyramids - these creations that are too large to hide from another take at life on this planet - could it be possible that all historical education we learned was... filtered knowledge?
Definitely have had my mind blown wide open many times in my life so imho, anything is possible.
I picked up a book one day that also showed me amazing possibilities the book was titled "Forbidden Archaeology"... look it up
Let's start with so called fossil fuels have zero to do with fossils. Canada is in a CO2 deficit so we don't have a problem, but are the only ones paying extortion taxes. That are doing what? No one has answered that. It's time this madness ended. Way to destroy a country! Oh, right, that ship has sailed.
people take "power" for granted. I mean power in every form, from that which we gain from breathing to that which we toy with while self-harming with microwaves. Perhaps power is the number one human obsession. Our lust for manipulating power, be it petro chemical solar etheric hydro magnetic,,, doesnt matter, they all come with a price, and a burden of care, lest we harm ourselves or everybody/thing else on our spaceship. Yes. we are on a spaceship hurling through space/time. To get past the pollution of power production/consumption, I suggest decision makers slow down, conserve, eliminate the profiteering motivation, unleash the brightest minds on the questions of subtle frequency harnessing, water structural enhancement and interference. surely the bonds of water molecules hold enough mystery to satisfy our energy fetishes for, perhaps ever.
“doesnt matter, they all come with a price, and a burden of care, lest we harm ourselves or everybody/thing else on our spaceship.“.
No, actually, it really does matter, and we are not on a spaceship. The price, and the burden of care, is manipulated by those who lust after control, the rest of the sane folks are not hurling through space.
"No, actually, it really does matter, and we are not on a spaceship."
Are you a bot? your first point agrees with me (as my syntax indicates that it matters no matter which use of energy one chooses to focus on,,) and then you imply that I'm wrong??
Then you claim "we are not on a space ship". really? how do you know? I dare you to try to convince buck minster fuller of that.
"the sane folks are not hurling through space."
really? I dont know about how the unenlightened can claim sanity?
Relative to pace of this thread, 200 km/second (thats the speed earth orbits the galactic center) is at least hurling if not hooning along.
Canada doesn't have enough industry pollution to register. But we've allowed govt to destroy the country over fake (science lacking) narratives. I had no idea our citizens were so uneducated and lacking the intellectual interest to even do the homework to aquire science data backed by stats and data going back a couple hundred years. The earth is cooler now than 100 yrs ago. We have more artic ice at both ends. And we have impoverished, homeless, hungry citizens. Shameful!
In land-locked AB with our long, cold, dark winters, I can't see solar ever being an option. Even though we can have some powerful winds, Windmills kill birds and cause people to have headaches, we have nothing here that can produce hydro power. Where I live we are sitting on a very large natural gas deposit, very close to the surface and very easy to access, with meeting all clean energy targets. Yet, our woke Town Council has spent hundreds and hundred of thousands of dollars exploring geothermal option. While our Oil and Gas industry suffers. The source for geothermal is too far from town, and cannot maintain heat this far. So much for "green" energy scam, however, the NGOs and the companies doing all the research (two or three "studies" now, is laughing all the way to the bank on tax payers $$$$.
I was talking locally, perhaps in Jasper National Parks (but that is Federal), here we have the mighty Athabasca River which perhaps could make hydropower? As far as what I've heard, there isn't a viable hydropower source close by where I live. HOWEVER, our local resources are oil, gas, lumber, coal IN ABUNDANCE. I've never researched hydropower here, (nor do I want our taxes going in to more research). I believe each community should use WHATEVER is at hand in abundance, easily produced energy, and what is the least expensive. WHILE MAKING IT as "clean" as possible. Which we have come a long, long way .
I cannot foresee heating our homes (here, locally) with electricity, nor everyone using electric vehicles which catch fire, and don't start in the extreme cold, and blow out the electric grid. Have a quick look at all the EV grave yards. Once a battery goes, (they are NOT produced environmentally friendly) have a look at the mining sites, the cost of a new battery is prohibitive. I don't think anyone replaces an EV battery.
I was looking at the question directly—would Canada become uninhabitable. I agree with you—electric vehicles are stupid! I think wood-burning stoves and fireplaces are lovely and extremely necessary! What I’m meaning to get at is the ‘fossil fuel’ industry has captured the debate and has us all tripping over ourselves trying to find our way out of their box. This entire continent was once powered by hydro and they managed to build exquisite cities that way. I know that is not the mainstream history, because they lie. They have stolen everything and rewritten the history, leaving us with only clues—like what we call them—Robber Barons in the Guilded Age
We need to use the gift of those resources to live and work in this climate and for reasonable trade and commerce. But, in an ideal situation that use should not be exploited beyond reasonable need and reason, that is, not let uncontrolled greed exploit the opportunity at the expense of people and the environment. Unfortunately, increasingly, one wonders who of those with power truly cares about the country and its economy.
Re: "that use should not be exploited beyond reasonable need and reason, that is, not let uncontrolled greed exploit the opportunity at the expense of people and the environment."
This then compels us to clearly define what a "reasonable need and reason" is, and it compels us to ask ourselves if our current purchases are aligned with that or not.
I personally have a long way to go, after all, I am typing this comment on a Lithium, Cobalt and Tantalum containing computer. Those are minerals which are mined using children living in poverty and at the cost of the destruction of places like the Boreal Forest and the great lakes (for lithium mining).
In the end it will come down to if each of us can realize the part we all play in the larger momentum of our industrial civilization in time (as in before we find ourselves living in smart cities resembling that city from the Lorax, where people no longer remember what real forests look like and they buy bottled air).
Canada and in particular BC is the home of one of the best hydro-electric systems in the world. It's expensive and wouldn't take too many EV's per family to turn it into a routine blackout situation come summer heat spells and winter cold spells.
Energy is what provides many sustainable products which raise the quality of life and in general make life easier. That being said, it's definitely possible to 'survive' the temp extreme's in Canada, but there are definitely better options including energy sources of fossil fuels and to give credence to the needed research in the cleanest energy production through fission.
I'm definitely someone who enjoys a balance of living in an ecosystem that supports and maintains many creatures and lifestyle also... there is ways to make a balance.
That is interesting, I am glad you brought up the hydroelectric technology and what you described as "sustainable products" as there is a lot to unpack there.
I am also curious to learn more about your thoughts on "the cleanest energy production through fission." Please elaborate on what that would look like in your mind.
Regarding hydroelectric dams, what are your thoughts on the ecological detriments and local food supply crippling impacts of hydroelectric reservoirs and dams? Did you know that those projects often destroy vast forests, kill off huge fish populations and flood farmable land so that energy corporations can profit?
Also, one could make the argument that you could not have hydroelectric dams without "fossil fuels" (petroleum products) for all the machinery and mining activities that were required for their construction (and maintenance) require constant (and significant) amounts of petroleum to be burned.
I would also appreciate if you could provide a few examples of what you mean by "sustainable products which raise the quality of life and in general make life easier".
This is certainly a good set of questions Gavin... I'll do my best to negotiate them in the spirit of collaborative discussion.
Water and Hydro power:
BC Hydro Electricity has provided many many homes with power and warmth as well as many industrial energy sources for my entire lifespan, so I do appreciate this availability. Convenience may be the biggest emphasis here, but perhaps what came first the need for convenience or consumerism?
Aside from this, also let me tell you I was also in my youth from about 1973 an avid white water and ocean canoe and kayaker, at least until 2008 when my shoulder made me promise to hang up my paddle. So I've been on the side of the protecting the rivers ambitiously - but also for my own preference as well as my enjoyment of the environment of these natural river settings.
Now having looked at this perspective, I started to feel like it was greedy of me to be on the side that thwarted this development - and that I had very little foresight - well I was still a teen back then too... but also, my sister's family lived on the waterfront of the 2nd lake of the Columbia River system, and well this NAWAPA would have meant being displace. quite frankly! (Not to mention, the island in front of their bay was FULL of arrowheads, so a development would be stopped in its archaeological status pronto)!
I don't agree with your concept that all this is for the mere "profit of the energy corporations" - not one bit, in fact it is for the benefit of the entire population of a region. At least that was the development outcome plan of WAC Bennett in his day. He like many other anti colonial imperialists were developers that made a Nation Sovereign, until they were removed... or murdered.
I wouldn't begin to argue the necessity for fossil fuels when building a dam or for the development of hydro power whatsoever... in fact burning carbon fuels is likely our future for a long time coming whether it's to our benefits and freedoms or not. I do not believe in the 'climate crisis' or the 'climate change' scenario for one second either...
Schellenberg - an avid environmentalist turned away from Green Technologies of today such as solar and wind in particular - you may want to compare that to the benefits of taking massive landscapes and regenerative measures of reverse desertification - like the Gobi Desert for example... these are more Green and sustainable options for our food supply and the health of the planet in general.
Fusion energy, if in the 70's wasn't kiboshed may have had the opportunity to be technologically more advanced than it is today. There are developments that prove it to be the cleanest energy source with the least need for carbon fuels and topographical demise... these are all topics that would benefit us all to research more.
Do you believe humanity is creative enough and technologically advanced enough to figure this out - on all aspects, the human brain will always outweigh an AI on the quantum aspects of cycles and felt sense of measurable success... for what is that if not a personal spiritual experience?
Do we take that with us in these discussion's today?
We are in interesting historical repeats of the fall of the Empire moment once again. Being stuck in a very closed system of belief... we could use a redo of a renaissance period to bring back a balance in humanity and life as we know it could be on this lovely planet.
My hereditary original peoples friends here in BC, they know we have a possible way to reunite with Mother Earth in our Spiritual ways of their cultural pasts, I believe this too and that all things needed can be supplied by the planet - it even says so in the white mans bibles.
I only hope that we can find a path that works for the higher purpose of a better balance and life on the planet. One of my favorite posts I've seen of late is "Go for a walk in the forest, you may not find wifi but you will find a better connection."
I do ask myself regularly, who am I to limit someone else?
Is there a place for us all to live closer to nature and for those who desire the hub bub or technology and city life to have that? Can we co-exist?
I hear you. Though I was asking the question in a literal sense. The question was not "Is Canada Comfortable Enough To Live In For Coddled City Slickers Without Fossil Fuels" so yes, I agree that many would not be able to hack it and would flee for warmer areas without centralized petroleum technology facilitated infrastructure.
I lived in Red Deer when I was 19-20, so in 1977. It was -40 (with wind chill) for two weeks. I had a powder blue down filled ski jacket that my aunt had given me for Christmas, I thought powder blue was gay but at -40 I got over it.
I have only been in minus 40 a few times and yes fashion statements were the least of my concerns :)
One time I tested out my minus 20 survival camping sleeping bag in a minus 40 storm up on the ski hill. I ended up wearing my jacket and long johns inside of the thing and that worked well.
Assuming I could stay dry and fed, that gear could allow me to stay alive in some pretty gnarly winter weather.
The next night I got a big bon fire going to get all toasty warm before getting in the tent.
Canada would be uninhabitable to all but the hardiest few -- those who are willing to chop wood -- or who have the land and resources to build "earth ship" style houses or other types of architecture which blend massively thick thermal mass with passive and active solar and other forms of alternative energy. Alternative energy, by itself, isn't going to support Canada's current population. There will be a massive migration to warmer climates, or a massive die-off, or a bit of both. But there is a resilient core of pioneer types who will roll through the end of fossil fuels just fine -- Canada post fossil fuel will once again resemble the Canada of the 1800's. On a more positive note, all the gibme's and rapeugees will leave.
Agreed, and well said.
There are some fun 'heat hacks' that permaculture nerds like myself might also add in there like seasonal large compost thermal output heated radiant floor heating, biogas systems and thermoelectric generators used in conjunction with a wood burning stove.
Though at the end of the day, I have the low-no tech gear and experience to be able to survive and thrive here without any fancy gadgets or elaborate systems if need be.
I just found the article title to be ridiculous and the total lack of mentioning the pre-colonial inhabitants of the land mass now called "Canada" to be either ignorant and/or arrogant.
I mean this land has been inhabited for thousands of years long before people started building oil wells and oil refineries.
Yes, I've played with "hot beds" to keep winter greens alive throughout the winter. An attached greenhouse with delicately balanced hot beds would be a unique source for a passive geothermal heat pump. But you need a LOT of manure ... something our globalist overlords seem determined to eliminate with their war on farming and ranching. Of course, you could supplement with humanure, but no town government would allow that for "health" reasons ... you'd have to be way off in the sticks to get away with such ingenuity.
For all their talk of "mitigating climate change", our globalist overlords act the OPPOSITE of what actually works to prevent the "global threat" they purport to need our tax dollars and enslavement to prevent.
Nickola Tesla invented free energy for the world, died a pulper, and his formulas vanished. He was one, the most well known, but there have been others, their discoveries all suppressed as well. There shouldn't even be a discussion of fossil fuels or not.
Here is an interesting mini docuseries you may find enlightening...
https://canadianpatriot.org/2024/04/08/the-occult-nikola-tesla-part-1-newton-rosicrucianism-and-the-imperial-control-of-science/
Holy Swiss Cheese of nonsense you’ve posted here! I can hardly begin, every paragraph has an unsupported claim. But, this is the sexiest: “The first hydroelectric generating station was built in Quebec in 1885. Canada is the third largest hydro generator in the world. Dams, water, and turbines supply 60% of the country’s electricity. Manitoba has great hydro resources from Northern regions, the province’s portion of the Canadian Shield. But where the land is flat, like Alberta and Saskatchewan, hydro only supplies up to 5.5% and 13% respectively.”
Really? Are you very sure about that? I’d say NO WAY!
https://youtu.be/z-lWjlEFQeg?si=W2HytKGNswc2k0Ea
It is so hilarious that anyone would believe that 1885 saw the first hydroelectric generating station in Quebec, WOW!
Why do you doubt it? As a Quebecois, i find it offensive that you think it is hilarious that someone might believe that Quebec had a hydoelectric generating station three years after Edison commisioned one in US. Here is the information.
Indeed, in 1885, a first hydropower generating station became operational near Montmorency Falls to provide lighting to the city of Québec. Three years later, a hydropower generating station was built in Sherbrooke. In 1897, the Saint-Narcisse generating station provided power to the city of Trois-Rivières. At the time, the 27-kilometer transmission line was the longest in the entire British Empire.
In Montréal, in 1892, the first hydropower generating station was built on the Lachine Canal. In 1901, businessmen founded Montreal Light, Heat and Power. Through purchases and company mergers, it quickly became the sole distributor of electricity in the city. Elsewhere, Shawinigan Water and Power, founded in 1898, quickly took control of the Mauricie region and by 1903 was delivering electricity to the Montréal region. For many years, these two companies would remain the most important players in the electrical industry in Quebec.
The video Michelle offered is only 20 mins - it's showing areas of developed waterways from another lifetime or historical time of life on earth...
It has been often spoken of that we've reached a level of technological advancement at least 7 times... is it possible humanity could stand to discover once again the connection through spirit with all things on Earth and each other?
We were allowed to view the Roman Aquaduct's as there are many places they still stand - Egyptian pyramids - these creations that are too large to hide from another take at life on this planet - could it be possible that all historical education we learned was... filtered knowledge?
Definitely have had my mind blown wide open many times in my life so imho, anything is possible.
I picked up a book one day that also showed me amazing possibilities the book was titled "Forbidden Archaeology"... look it up
My problem was with her comment about Quebec. She didn't say the world or even North America, she said Quebec.
Let's start with so called fossil fuels have zero to do with fossils. Canada is in a CO2 deficit so we don't have a problem, but are the only ones paying extortion taxes. That are doing what? No one has answered that. It's time this madness ended. Way to destroy a country! Oh, right, that ship has sailed.
people take "power" for granted. I mean power in every form, from that which we gain from breathing to that which we toy with while self-harming with microwaves. Perhaps power is the number one human obsession. Our lust for manipulating power, be it petro chemical solar etheric hydro magnetic,,, doesnt matter, they all come with a price, and a burden of care, lest we harm ourselves or everybody/thing else on our spaceship. Yes. we are on a spaceship hurling through space/time. To get past the pollution of power production/consumption, I suggest decision makers slow down, conserve, eliminate the profiteering motivation, unleash the brightest minds on the questions of subtle frequency harnessing, water structural enhancement and interference. surely the bonds of water molecules hold enough mystery to satisfy our energy fetishes for, perhaps ever.
“doesnt matter, they all come with a price, and a burden of care, lest we harm ourselves or everybody/thing else on our spaceship.“.
No, actually, it really does matter, and we are not on a spaceship. The price, and the burden of care, is manipulated by those who lust after control, the rest of the sane folks are not hurling through space.
"No, actually, it really does matter, and we are not on a spaceship."
Are you a bot? your first point agrees with me (as my syntax indicates that it matters no matter which use of energy one chooses to focus on,,) and then you imply that I'm wrong??
Then you claim "we are not on a space ship". really? how do you know? I dare you to try to convince buck minster fuller of that.
"the sane folks are not hurling through space."
really? I dont know about how the unenlightened can claim sanity?
Relative to pace of this thread, 200 km/second (thats the speed earth orbits the galactic center) is at least hurling if not hooning along.
Canada doesn't have enough industry pollution to register. But we've allowed govt to destroy the country over fake (science lacking) narratives. I had no idea our citizens were so uneducated and lacking the intellectual interest to even do the homework to aquire science data backed by stats and data going back a couple hundred years. The earth is cooler now than 100 yrs ago. We have more artic ice at both ends. And we have impoverished, homeless, hungry citizens. Shameful!
In land-locked AB with our long, cold, dark winters, I can't see solar ever being an option. Even though we can have some powerful winds, Windmills kill birds and cause people to have headaches, we have nothing here that can produce hydro power. Where I live we are sitting on a very large natural gas deposit, very close to the surface and very easy to access, with meeting all clean energy targets. Yet, our woke Town Council has spent hundreds and hundred of thousands of dollars exploring geothermal option. While our Oil and Gas industry suffers. The source for geothermal is too far from town, and cannot maintain heat this far. So much for "green" energy scam, however, the NGOs and the companies doing all the research (two or three "studies" now, is laughing all the way to the bank on tax payers $$$$.
“we have nothing here that can produce hydro power“
Says who?
I was talking locally, perhaps in Jasper National Parks (but that is Federal), here we have the mighty Athabasca River which perhaps could make hydropower? As far as what I've heard, there isn't a viable hydropower source close by where I live. HOWEVER, our local resources are oil, gas, lumber, coal IN ABUNDANCE. I've never researched hydropower here, (nor do I want our taxes going in to more research). I believe each community should use WHATEVER is at hand in abundance, easily produced energy, and what is the least expensive. WHILE MAKING IT as "clean" as possible. Which we have come a long, long way .
Athabasca System Hydroelectric Stations
I cannot foresee heating our homes (here, locally) with electricity, nor everyone using electric vehicles which catch fire, and don't start in the extreme cold, and blow out the electric grid. Have a quick look at all the EV grave yards. Once a battery goes, (they are NOT produced environmentally friendly) have a look at the mining sites, the cost of a new battery is prohibitive. I don't think anyone replaces an EV battery.
I was looking at the question directly—would Canada become uninhabitable. I agree with you—electric vehicles are stupid! I think wood-burning stoves and fireplaces are lovely and extremely necessary! What I’m meaning to get at is the ‘fossil fuel’ industry has captured the debate and has us all tripping over ourselves trying to find our way out of their box. This entire continent was once powered by hydro and they managed to build exquisite cities that way. I know that is not the mainstream history, because they lie. They have stolen everything and rewritten the history, leaving us with only clues—like what we call them—Robber Barons in the Guilded Age
We need to use the gift of those resources to live and work in this climate and for reasonable trade and commerce. But, in an ideal situation that use should not be exploited beyond reasonable need and reason, that is, not let uncontrolled greed exploit the opportunity at the expense of people and the environment. Unfortunately, increasingly, one wonders who of those with power truly cares about the country and its economy.
Thanks for the comment.
Re: "that use should not be exploited beyond reasonable need and reason, that is, not let uncontrolled greed exploit the opportunity at the expense of people and the environment."
This then compels us to clearly define what a "reasonable need and reason" is, and it compels us to ask ourselves if our current purchases are aligned with that or not.
I personally have a long way to go, after all, I am typing this comment on a Lithium, Cobalt and Tantalum containing computer. Those are minerals which are mined using children living in poverty and at the cost of the destruction of places like the Boreal Forest and the great lakes (for lithium mining).
In the end it will come down to if each of us can realize the part we all play in the larger momentum of our industrial civilization in time (as in before we find ourselves living in smart cities resembling that city from the Lorax, where people no longer remember what real forests look like and they buy bottled air).
Canada and in particular BC is the home of one of the best hydro-electric systems in the world. It's expensive and wouldn't take too many EV's per family to turn it into a routine blackout situation come summer heat spells and winter cold spells.
Energy is what provides many sustainable products which raise the quality of life and in general make life easier. That being said, it's definitely possible to 'survive' the temp extreme's in Canada, but there are definitely better options including energy sources of fossil fuels and to give credence to the needed research in the cleanest energy production through fission.
I'm definitely someone who enjoys a balance of living in an ecosystem that supports and maintains many creatures and lifestyle also... there is ways to make a balance.
That is interesting, I am glad you brought up the hydroelectric technology and what you described as "sustainable products" as there is a lot to unpack there.
I am also curious to learn more about your thoughts on "the cleanest energy production through fission." Please elaborate on what that would look like in your mind.
Regarding hydroelectric dams, what are your thoughts on the ecological detriments and local food supply crippling impacts of hydroelectric reservoirs and dams? Did you know that those projects often destroy vast forests, kill off huge fish populations and flood farmable land so that energy corporations can profit?
Also, one could make the argument that you could not have hydroelectric dams without "fossil fuels" (petroleum products) for all the machinery and mining activities that were required for their construction (and maintenance) require constant (and significant) amounts of petroleum to be burned.
I would also appreciate if you could provide a few examples of what you mean by "sustainable products which raise the quality of life and in general make life easier".
Thanks for the comment.
This is certainly a good set of questions Gavin... I'll do my best to negotiate them in the spirit of collaborative discussion.
Water and Hydro power:
BC Hydro Electricity has provided many many homes with power and warmth as well as many industrial energy sources for my entire lifespan, so I do appreciate this availability. Convenience may be the biggest emphasis here, but perhaps what came first the need for convenience or consumerism?
Aside from this, also let me tell you I was also in my youth from about 1973 an avid white water and ocean canoe and kayaker, at least until 2008 when my shoulder made me promise to hang up my paddle. So I've been on the side of the protecting the rivers ambitiously - but also for my own preference as well as my enjoyment of the environment of these natural river settings.
Now there is also a side of me that fought against the development of the NAWAPA - https://canadianpatriot.org/2020/12/03/holistic-solutions-to-the-north-american-water-crisis-chinas-new-silk-road-and-nawapa-revisited/ but after reading about how in the 70's our effective protests meant a whole lot of North American people would suffer today the much need for water for growing food to hydro power to all other uses of water in the dry regions of the South!
Now having looked at this perspective, I started to feel like it was greedy of me to be on the side that thwarted this development - and that I had very little foresight - well I was still a teen back then too... but also, my sister's family lived on the waterfront of the 2nd lake of the Columbia River system, and well this NAWAPA would have meant being displace. quite frankly! (Not to mention, the island in front of their bay was FULL of arrowheads, so a development would be stopped in its archaeological status pronto)!
Seeing these desires for these "NEW GREEN DEALS" makes me sick as this amount of consumption of landmass and their impacts are significantly worse than damming rivers imho. Talk about a project that is Malthusian in its roots! https://larouchepub.com/other/2021/4807-prince_charles_invented_green_nd.html
I don't agree with your concept that all this is for the mere "profit of the energy corporations" - not one bit, in fact it is for the benefit of the entire population of a region. At least that was the development outcome plan of WAC Bennett in his day. He like many other anti colonial imperialists were developers that made a Nation Sovereign, until they were removed... or murdered.
I wouldn't begin to argue the necessity for fossil fuels when building a dam or for the development of hydro power whatsoever... in fact burning carbon fuels is likely our future for a long time coming whether it's to our benefits and freedoms or not. I do not believe in the 'climate crisis' or the 'climate change' scenario for one second either...
https://clintel.org
Schellenberg - an avid environmentalist turned away from Green Technologies of today such as solar and wind in particular - you may want to compare that to the benefits of taking massive landscapes and regenerative measures of reverse desertification - like the Gobi Desert for example... these are more Green and sustainable options for our food supply and the health of the planet in general.
Fusion energy, if in the 70's wasn't kiboshed may have had the opportunity to be technologically more advanced than it is today. There are developments that prove it to be the cleanest energy source with the least need for carbon fuels and topographical demise... these are all topics that would benefit us all to research more.
This mini-docuseries had me thinking outside my typical box for example and I recommend all green folks consider watching them: https://canadianpatriot.org/2023/12/21/escaping-calypsos-island-episode-2-trapped-in-the-cave-the-curse-of-game-theory/
Do you believe humanity is creative enough and technologically advanced enough to figure this out - on all aspects, the human brain will always outweigh an AI on the quantum aspects of cycles and felt sense of measurable success... for what is that if not a personal spiritual experience?
Do we take that with us in these discussion's today?
We are in interesting historical repeats of the fall of the Empire moment once again. Being stuck in a very closed system of belief... we could use a redo of a renaissance period to bring back a balance in humanity and life as we know it could be on this lovely planet.
My hereditary original peoples friends here in BC, they know we have a possible way to reunite with Mother Earth in our Spiritual ways of their cultural pasts, I believe this too and that all things needed can be supplied by the planet - it even says so in the white mans bibles.
I only hope that we can find a path that works for the higher purpose of a better balance and life on the planet. One of my favorite posts I've seen of late is "Go for a walk in the forest, you may not find wifi but you will find a better connection."
I do ask myself regularly, who am I to limit someone else?
Is there a place for us all to live closer to nature and for those who desire the hub bub or technology and city life to have that? Can we co-exist?
Peace to you all...
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It’s a yes/no answer.
I believe it is possible to live anywhere in the world.
But would you really want to?
Most people today would not be able to withstand the harsh conditions and be forced to move on.
I hear you. Though I was asking the question in a literal sense. The question was not "Is Canada Comfortable Enough To Live In For Coddled City Slickers Without Fossil Fuels" so yes, I agree that many would not be able to hack it and would flee for warmer areas without centralized petroleum technology facilitated infrastructure.
Thanks for engaging and commenting.
I lived in Red Deer when I was 19-20, so in 1977. It was -40 (with wind chill) for two weeks. I had a powder blue down filled ski jacket that my aunt had given me for Christmas, I thought powder blue was gay but at -40 I got over it.
I have only been in minus 40 a few times and yes fashion statements were the least of my concerns :)
One time I tested out my minus 20 survival camping sleeping bag in a minus 40 storm up on the ski hill. I ended up wearing my jacket and long johns inside of the thing and that worked well.
Assuming I could stay dry and fed, that gear could allow me to stay alive in some pretty gnarly winter weather.
The next night I got a big bon fire going to get all toasty warm before getting in the tent.
Thanks for the comment my friend.