holy shit dude that's the greatest book review I've ever seen. thanks. I love all that stuff, and I've lived it, changed my name to Druid on my drivers license last century, just planted a circle of 9 hazels and dug a little pond in the middle as per the old myth this winter, etc etc. books are SO fucking important, its a miracle that any of us have had the time out of wage slavery and other new fangled brainwash media to actually read one. hopefully through the preservation of wisdom and knowledge a good culture based on everything in your book review can rise once again. how to make it go viral is a tough row to hoe. people are reading all the wrong books when they do amazingly get around to reading one. there's infinite comments I could make but good point mentioning the native stewardship. I remember seeing the old maps of Jamestown Virginia from when Capt John Smith arrived and there were named Powhatan villages EVERYWHERE. it was all old growth food forest and the cavaliers noted that they could ride horseback unobstructed wherever they wanted because the understory was maintained. my family had an ancestress from there whose name translated as "she sweeps the dew off the flowers." out here in California the oak trees were owned and maintained by individual families, and I doubt the acorns were wormy like many are now due to white mans disease etc. all the info is well established and documented for those of us lucky enough to glimpse it. I grew up in NYC and as a kid I'd hang out in that big giant library uptown and I did extensive history on native Manhattan and realized at an early age how badly we fucked up. the details are endless and the way is shown. thanks again for fleshing it out so nicely. my view is that the food forest idea has to transcend backyard permaculture and take over the entire landscape like j Russell smiths Tree Crops Towards a Permanent Agriculture 1930 turn of the century photos of whole mountain ranges covered with 800 year old grafted chestnuts and olive trees etc. I don't know exactly how to accomplish this on a grand scale. I see permaculture as a word stolen from Smith and applied by folks who need to make money, engaging with other folks who might be able to pay something, to nice up the land here and there on a rather small scale, which is great, but I'm wondering how to make it much greater, relatively to the whole planet. there's lots of ideas on this and I could go on forever, but thanks again and have a great day. its melon planting time!
Thanks brother I appreciate you taking the time to really read it and post the in depth comments.
That is very interesting regarding the old growth food forests you describe near "Jamestown". I have read many similar accounts of here on the shores of Lake Erie and Lake Huron from about 180-300 years ago when early "explorers" and settlers arrived.
"the food forest idea has to transcend backyard permaculture and take over the entire landscape" Agreed. I am working on starting at a community scale and then making it fractally scalable upwards to larger regional food forests.
Thanks for the reminder to check on my baby melon plants :)
good for you you're definitely on the cutting edge with your posts thanks. there's not enough of that and far too much vapid driveling nonsense and heinous lies and brainwashing deluge. that book a forest journey the role of wood in the development of shrivelization is one of my favorites and I think it was in there that I read about the extensive use of American chestnut in new England and probably Canada too and it said in there that by the time they reached the Chicago area, after diseasing and genociding the local Indians no doubt, it said that they just burned a large amount of old growth chestnut forests just so they could put cows there… and then it became meat city etc… the past is kinda grim and grisly for me, but growing stuff is where its at. I'm worried I might have so much rain and moisture that some of my chestnuts have died suddenly, but just a small percentage. yeah to make the food forest go viral, how to hmmm… seems like a lot of retarted rednecks have the best land on a large scale, but maybe that could be ok. I like the idea of arboretums. I've been wanting to get grants to get land for that sort of thing but I'm too busy and I've never done that kind of thing but it seems like a good idea that some rare rich people might fund. like land for big food foresting. or even 1 acre. I don't know. thanks again for writing
I am so glad he mentioned the water wizard. Victor understood the 4th phase of water before anyone else did. Maybe better. There is wisdom in the native traditions of singing to the water each spring. My father put it "The trees call the rain" . even we humans are called to play our part in the dance of life.
This is such a thought-provoking post, especially as I woke up this morning thinking about why people go to war, and that many people seem to think warlike behaviour is natural and inevitable for humans and animals, and yet my houseplants never fight - they just thrive! You make so many important points in this post. I will look out for this book.
yeah that whole modern war thing gets me into trouble as an aside because I was like, huh? shouldn't we have gotten beyond war by now??? we're so blessed with all the good ideas why is war still such a drag? so I did EXTENSIVE research into why its still such a plague, and we cant talk about it because people freak out from brainwashing that its "antisemitic." the banking dynasty and allied criminal Jewish families at the top today make too much money off it and they don't want to give it up. in a nutshell, gold and diamonds were discovered in southern Africa and these top Jews immediately gained control of those lucrative mines but then sort of naturally fell into ownership of ALL MINING, of lesser valued heavy industrial ores. they already owned the oil, and fomenting and financing both sides of wars had been their bread and butter business for more than a few generations and had been the main cause of their modern rise to power, so they made world war one to maximize profits and its been a Permanent Jew War Machine ever since. sometimes I call it the Perpetual Jew War Economy. obviously some Jews doth protest because they feel incriminated, even though they're not really part of the .00001% super rich that I'm referring to. when opium Lord Sassoons son married Lord Rothschilds daughter, the CIA was born... mi6 etc. many things are covert. the simplest way to face the reality is to come to terms with the obvious fact that JEWS DID 911 and had the hutzpah to blame it on "the" Muslims, and bomb afganistan back into opium production for their still Jewish owned and run heroin business, AND due to primitive taboo stigma nobody said jack shit about it for fear of hurting brainwashed feelings and stepping on sensitive toes or getting shunned or ostracized on precious social media, so of course, the same Jews did 10/7 and of course they tell us that it was the 19 Arab hijacker patsies or "Hamas" or rump the Donald from their heroin money laundry resorts international 'casinos,' or creepy sleepy gropin joe Biden from Big Jew pharma, or CIA obummer, or shrub Bush the village idiot, all proxies frontmen lackeys stooges figureheads henchfolk, making people think its not Jewish engineering but it is. if there was a really nice way to say it, I would because I'm Jewish too, but no there isn't.
Thanks I appreciate you taking the time to read it and comment. Yes indeed, we have much to learn from our rooted elders in the kingdom of photosynthetic beings.
holy shit dude that's the greatest book review I've ever seen. thanks. I love all that stuff, and I've lived it, changed my name to Druid on my drivers license last century, just planted a circle of 9 hazels and dug a little pond in the middle as per the old myth this winter, etc etc. books are SO fucking important, its a miracle that any of us have had the time out of wage slavery and other new fangled brainwash media to actually read one. hopefully through the preservation of wisdom and knowledge a good culture based on everything in your book review can rise once again. how to make it go viral is a tough row to hoe. people are reading all the wrong books when they do amazingly get around to reading one. there's infinite comments I could make but good point mentioning the native stewardship. I remember seeing the old maps of Jamestown Virginia from when Capt John Smith arrived and there were named Powhatan villages EVERYWHERE. it was all old growth food forest and the cavaliers noted that they could ride horseback unobstructed wherever they wanted because the understory was maintained. my family had an ancestress from there whose name translated as "she sweeps the dew off the flowers." out here in California the oak trees were owned and maintained by individual families, and I doubt the acorns were wormy like many are now due to white mans disease etc. all the info is well established and documented for those of us lucky enough to glimpse it. I grew up in NYC and as a kid I'd hang out in that big giant library uptown and I did extensive history on native Manhattan and realized at an early age how badly we fucked up. the details are endless and the way is shown. thanks again for fleshing it out so nicely. my view is that the food forest idea has to transcend backyard permaculture and take over the entire landscape like j Russell smiths Tree Crops Towards a Permanent Agriculture 1930 turn of the century photos of whole mountain ranges covered with 800 year old grafted chestnuts and olive trees etc. I don't know exactly how to accomplish this on a grand scale. I see permaculture as a word stolen from Smith and applied by folks who need to make money, engaging with other folks who might be able to pay something, to nice up the land here and there on a rather small scale, which is great, but I'm wondering how to make it much greater, relatively to the whole planet. there's lots of ideas on this and I could go on forever, but thanks again and have a great day. its melon planting time!
Thanks brother I appreciate you taking the time to really read it and post the in depth comments.
That is very interesting regarding the old growth food forests you describe near "Jamestown". I have read many similar accounts of here on the shores of Lake Erie and Lake Huron from about 180-300 years ago when early "explorers" and settlers arrived.
"the food forest idea has to transcend backyard permaculture and take over the entire landscape" Agreed. I am working on starting at a community scale and then making it fractally scalable upwards to larger regional food forests.
Thanks for the reminder to check on my baby melon plants :)
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good for you you're definitely on the cutting edge with your posts thanks. there's not enough of that and far too much vapid driveling nonsense and heinous lies and brainwashing deluge. that book a forest journey the role of wood in the development of shrivelization is one of my favorites and I think it was in there that I read about the extensive use of American chestnut in new England and probably Canada too and it said in there that by the time they reached the Chicago area, after diseasing and genociding the local Indians no doubt, it said that they just burned a large amount of old growth chestnut forests just so they could put cows there… and then it became meat city etc… the past is kinda grim and grisly for me, but growing stuff is where its at. I'm worried I might have so much rain and moisture that some of my chestnuts have died suddenly, but just a small percentage. yeah to make the food forest go viral, how to hmmm… seems like a lot of retarted rednecks have the best land on a large scale, but maybe that could be ok. I like the idea of arboretums. I've been wanting to get grants to get land for that sort of thing but I'm too busy and I've never done that kind of thing but it seems like a good idea that some rare rich people might fund. like land for big food foresting. or even 1 acre. I don't know. thanks again for writing
I am so glad he mentioned the water wizard. Victor understood the 4th phase of water before anyone else did. Maybe better. There is wisdom in the native traditions of singing to the water each spring. My father put it "The trees call the rain" . even we humans are called to play our part in the dance of life.
Fantastic post. I appreciate the detail of your review. I've added this book to my very very long list of must reads.
This is such a thought-provoking post, especially as I woke up this morning thinking about why people go to war, and that many people seem to think warlike behaviour is natural and inevitable for humans and animals, and yet my houseplants never fight - they just thrive! You make so many important points in this post. I will look out for this book.
yeah that whole modern war thing gets me into trouble as an aside because I was like, huh? shouldn't we have gotten beyond war by now??? we're so blessed with all the good ideas why is war still such a drag? so I did EXTENSIVE research into why its still such a plague, and we cant talk about it because people freak out from brainwashing that its "antisemitic." the banking dynasty and allied criminal Jewish families at the top today make too much money off it and they don't want to give it up. in a nutshell, gold and diamonds were discovered in southern Africa and these top Jews immediately gained control of those lucrative mines but then sort of naturally fell into ownership of ALL MINING, of lesser valued heavy industrial ores. they already owned the oil, and fomenting and financing both sides of wars had been their bread and butter business for more than a few generations and had been the main cause of their modern rise to power, so they made world war one to maximize profits and its been a Permanent Jew War Machine ever since. sometimes I call it the Perpetual Jew War Economy. obviously some Jews doth protest because they feel incriminated, even though they're not really part of the .00001% super rich that I'm referring to. when opium Lord Sassoons son married Lord Rothschilds daughter, the CIA was born... mi6 etc. many things are covert. the simplest way to face the reality is to come to terms with the obvious fact that JEWS DID 911 and had the hutzpah to blame it on "the" Muslims, and bomb afganistan back into opium production for their still Jewish owned and run heroin business, AND due to primitive taboo stigma nobody said jack shit about it for fear of hurting brainwashed feelings and stepping on sensitive toes or getting shunned or ostracized on precious social media, so of course, the same Jews did 10/7 and of course they tell us that it was the 19 Arab hijacker patsies or "Hamas" or rump the Donald from their heroin money laundry resorts international 'casinos,' or creepy sleepy gropin joe Biden from Big Jew pharma, or CIA obummer, or shrub Bush the village idiot, all proxies frontmen lackeys stooges figureheads henchfolk, making people think its not Jewish engineering but it is. if there was a really nice way to say it, I would because I'm Jewish too, but no there isn't.
Thanks I appreciate you taking the time to read it and comment. Yes indeed, we have much to learn from our rooted elders in the kingdom of photosynthetic beings.
Have you done "Secret Life of Plants" or "Secrets of the Soil"?
I do own a copy of The Secret Life Of Trees but I have not read the ones you suggested. I`ll add them to my reading list. Thanks!
Your welcome. Keep up the good work.