This post explores Voluntaryism, Brehons, "The Indigenous Critique", what Charles Eisenstein describes as "The Concrete World" and offers sign posts to instead choose a different future
Fantastic article, shared among my colleagues, so glad I found your work.
My name is Cory Endrulat, I post on my own sites, but my substack here is just idle. You are welcome to connect with me.
As a bit of a more formal introduction:
I find it of my moral obligation, to share knowledge that I know can help in the evolution of humanity, based on studying Dr. Carl Jung, Dr. Stanley Milgram, Larken Rose, Mark Passio, Derrick Broze, Jim Gale and many others detailing untold psychology and philosophy, as well as unique solutions. I do all my work for free and for education because I care about my generation.
My name is Cory Endrulat, I am 23 years old, for which I started researching when I was 13. My journey started in health, with nutrition and reading ingredients; from there, it was only inevitable that I ran into the corruption involved within the health industry. I found myself getting into politics when I was 16, a major Trump supporter at the time, especially since the high energy came to my generation, and the independent media was also rather supportive of him. All my life I held nature core to my reasoning, and thus over time, I realized politics was no longer where the focus should be, and the healing that takes place within each individual with nutrition, can be applied to the world when we heal the minds of the masses (Hermetic principle of Mentalism). From healing and freeing the minds, comes healing everything else naturally. As I started to produce content, I got involved with Mark Passio (de-occultist) and his community, now part of One Great Work Network, I also started real-life events in many places. For instance, I hold monthly events in Tarpon Springs, Florida (here is an example of one we did on hypnosis and mind control: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG4XTl_lRHU ). Producing several books and documentaries, then summits with over 50+ speakers including Derrick Broze, David Icke and others, I came across your work. I also have many resources on action, if you want me to share. Here are some key points of interest that may benefit your work:
- How we can solve most if not ALL of the world's biggest problems (War, Political Corruption, Scarcity, World Hunger, Food Insecurity, Mental Illness, Cancer, Heart Disease, Infertility, Environmental Pollution and Deforestation, Poverty and Unemployment, Mass Extinction, Tyranny, The Rise of Artificial Intelligence) through Permaculture Food Forests (the science of working with nature to best grow food with lowest effort, highest yield) . Look up Jim Gale and Food Forest Abundance. We grow food instead of lawns, and we reach out to influencers to make this happen on a mass scale, and we become free in so many ways, it's very simple and powerful. Jim has 50 acres in Central FL, totally off-grid. I'm in touch with him. Here is a quick video I did on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S63VSBV2Z8Y and here is a great interview he did with Del Bigtree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJEihCcRH0c More info: t.me/foodforestabundance and a powerful video I did as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6VMo33Vx7Y Check out this video I did on the Earth Council, which Jim created, featuring many world leading doctors, scientists and content creators on freedom and self-sustainability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVgqWJYrAc4
- How slavery still exists, and by our own consent. How mental slavery is the most dangerous and how "political slavery" as said by previous historical Abolitionists, is at the root to ALL slavery. This is why I call myself an Abolitionist. This is detailed in my summit and also my rendition of my Slavery Gone For Good book which features 400+ pages of quotes on psychology, philosophy, former slaves and 19th century Abolitionists. Similarly, how 19th century Abolitionists (and Quakers before them) and their "nonresistance" would influence writers like Leo Tolstoy (known as one of the greatest authors of all time), who would then directly influence Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. in their acts of "civil disobedience." More info on this: https://theliberator.us/book I am willing to provide this book to you for free, digital or in-person paperback.
- How "statism" is the "most dangerous superstition" as detailed by Larken Rose, it's knowledge contributes to "the end of all evil" as said by Jeremey Locke (unknown author) and "the one true divide" as said by Mark Passio (his best work is his "Natural Law: The Real Law of Attraction" seminar, he escaped the Church of Satanism). Inversely, the solution of "voluntaryism" as affirmed by psychology, the idea that we can live in a voluntary world (a world based in consent), to end all political slavery and divide, morality and the golden rule without contradiction. As in medicine, we must get to the root cause, without symptom management and distraction. I have made many charts on this subject (such as The Statist Criterion, which also details Shadow Work and Socratic Methods), and have shown this knowledge to be the ONLY true solution to the "controversial" Dr. Stanley Milgram experiments. I also hold many huge projects for everyone to contribute to this education, including medical projects which focus on the science of it which hasn't been done (with ex-scientologists and others in the field who see left-brain imbalance, among other concerns; anyone from the medical community may join this or critique our work, we've gathered research material over the years). I've also developed AI chat-bots to challenge an individual's worldview using questions, and quizzes as well. (This ties into the slavery issue) Learn more here: https://theliberator.us/slavery
- How the Ancient Chinese (through the philosophy of Taoism) were the FIRST to discuss profound liberty and spiritual ideas in action, and openly rebel against dogmatic systems. There are also a number of different philosophers we never learn about in history, with very profound writings like Lysander Spooner. Dr. Carl Jung was fascinated by Taoism and the I-Ching, as it has strong correlates to psychology. I'm also willing to provide this book for free. Taoism emphasized a connection to nature (much like Stoicism which is growing in popularity), and most people in the West don't know about it, despite it being closely connected with Feng Shui, Qigong, Tai-Chi, TCM, etc.
Thanks to all your work, I hope this may assist, please feel free to reach out. I'm open to ideas. I have many projects not shared here. It is my goal to effect change in the world.
I studied with Dr. Elaine Ingahm via one of her online courses and I have also posited that regenerative agroforestry (food forest gardening) is one of the most powerful leverage points and solutions we can embrace and lend our energy towards as individuals seeking to make our local communities (and this world at large) a better, more just, resilient, abundant, decentralized, honest, equitable, inspiring and beautiful place to live (and give to future generations).
I explored some of the reasons why I (as you) believe that to be the case in this essay:
My second book is going to be focusing on providing the reader with a trail map all the way from a handful of seeds to a climax ecosystem self-perpetuating food forest (also including information on combining harvests and preserving to create synergistic natural medicines using food from the forest garden).
I like the sound of your booked titled "Sapientia Naturae: The Wisdom Of Nature" and the "Slavery Gone For Good: Black Book Edition" looks intriguing as well. Would you be interested in skipping over the use of fiat currency and doing a trade (a copy of my first book "Recipes For Reciprocity: The Regenerative Way From Seed To Table" and perhaps some select rare/high value heirloom seeds from my collection) for one or two of your books?
I am open to using fiat if you prefer, though I do like to avoid giving Jeff Bezos more money if possible.
I like the idea of collaborating with you in some way in the future and look forward to learning more about your work as time allows (I have been very busy working on propagating endangered food and medicine tree species locally for several months now working on multiple community food forest projects so my time online is minimal right now).
Thanks for reaching out, I am always glad to connect with a kindred spirit.
May the sun shine brightly for you illuminating all the genius in Creator's design which is embodied in a single leaf, if it is raining may the rhythm sooth your mind and nourish your crops and if it is windy may you catch a whisper on it in the dancing grass and the movement of our wise rooted elders.
Governments actually do not borrow from banks directly.
The Fed Bank sells the Government debt on the open market and it is purchased by People, Institutions and other Governments.
The largest holder of US Debt is the average joe out there through their Social Security contributions which purchase US Debt as their only asset. Most 401K's own anywhere from 40 to 60% government debt as an asset.
Many corporations own Government debt.
Many Pensions own large amounts of Government Debt and the Government has passed laws making it mandatory that Banks must hold Government debt as their Reserves.
So you see first, banks do not just create the money out of thin air, they get it from us and other governments and from bank deposits.
The interest on the debt the government pays is collected from taxes and worst, the government does not really pay off debt, they borrow money by rolling old debt over in new debt to pay the old debt and that is how the US got to 34 trillion.
It would be like you borrowing money from the credit card company every month to pay the debt.
Worse, Governments are CHRONIC defaulters and the Great Reset is all about the current Government Default which is a default on you, your bank and other countries.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and share your perspectives on the subject of fiat money creation and national debts to banksters.
While I could argue with you about the purpose, history and "Economic Hitmen" (predatory lending) practices of entities such as the BIS and IMF, those minutia are not really important in the broader context of the truths I presented in the essay above. I think you may have missed the point of what I was attempting to invite the reader to consider with regards to Statism.
Lets take a step back from this material you presented regarding who exactly is creating debt (through fractional reserve lending) and fiat money and ask ourselves the question, "Why can those individuals and institutions do that and you or I cannot?".
Is it because some people I have never met in some room far away from where I live, wrote something on some paper and signed it (calling this a "law" that now is able to be enforced with violence onto me) ?
You may recognize the proclamations of statists as worthy and legitimate, however, I deem their claimed authority as illegitimate and reject their self-appointed monopoly on having a legal right to create fiat currency and lend fraudulently (fractional reserve lending). Furthermore, I see the very existence of the involuntary coercion and violence enforced legal system which they claim that have given them such rights as immoral and a recipe for massive corruption and the destruction of the biosphere we depend on to survive.
I will attempt to summarize some of the more important points from my essay for you here in case you did not have time to read my whole essay.
All throughout history Statist empires sought to steal the land from and impose their will upon people who had chosen to live in close connection to the land and the forest (in state-less societies) by assigning them with the dehumanizing, condecending and derisive label of being "uncivilized"/"savage".
As Lyla astutely points out (in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lljSJVF6wgY ), this was/is not only true of how the statists sought to annihilate, assimilate and pillage the cultures and lands of the diverse peoples of Turtle Island. It was also true (and is still also true) for how statist regimes have sought (and continue to seek) to do the same to other people who lived (and live) in close relationship with the living Earth all over the world.
This was true of my blood ancestors in the Druidic (and then eventually Celtic) nations and it is true now in how the Canadian government and corporations are imposing their will upon those people who live in areas where profitable minerals exist in the ground that they want to get their hands on.
The time has come for us to ask ourselves the question, Have we been tricked by "Civilization"? and where do our true allegiances lie?
Do we swear our allegiance to a flag/nation state/"civilization" or do we swear our allegiance to the Living Earth?
As I outlined in my essay, there is no middle road in answering that question, because one is antithetical to the other.
Thank you for pointing out that the tactics of the BIS and IMF have nothing to do with the Fed Bank nor the US Debt.
I have not missed your point, I agree with the statement that Statism is evil. It just does not do evil to people who desire to live in harmony with the land, it is evil to all who oppose its edicts.
You have a tendency to glorify indigenous peoples without acknowledging that their ways of living in harmony with the land have degenerated into evil states as well.
All things in manifestation are tied to a cycle of birth growth and death. Society comes together out of Mutual Self Interest and degenerates through pitting one group against another at the behest of those in Power, the State.
I have loaned money out to people, at interest. Nothing stopped me from doing so. I can currently purchase corporate debt which is me loaning money to a corporation and the corporation pays me an interest payment. Debt is just money that pays interest.
The problem is not you and I loaning out money, or banks loaning out money. The problem is when Government, the state, borrows money and forces you and I to pay for it.
Fraudulent is defined as obtained, done by, or involving deception and I would also add coercion and violent force. None of these things are done by the bank when they loan money out. It is only when the Government borrows money that fraud is engaged.
Do you blame the gun seller for the murder done by someone they sold a gun to? Of course not. So why do you blame the banks for the evil done by the Government?
I am not saying that all banks are saints or victims. Goldman Sachs and Chase and Wellsfargo have all done very evil things and I am not talking about those individual evils nor am I excusing them. However, it is the Government that gives them a free pass. In a Free Market, those banks would go bankrupt due to the evils they do.
The Celts were destroyed by the Catholic Church.
Not all corporations impose their will on the People, only those corporations who pay the highest bribe to the "representative" or Bureaucrat in Government. If there were no Representatives or bureaucrats to bribe or blackmail, the corruption would end.
No one has been tricked by civilization. We come together in a Society out of Mutual Self Interest and Mutual Benefit and that is destroyed by Government pitting one group against another.
My allegiance lies to my Self Interest, the invisible hand of the economy as written in the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith. It is out of Self Interest that I make sure not to pollute my environment not out of some allegiance to the planet.
Self Interest governs all human behavior. It becomes corrupted when one group is given power over all others.
Does that mean you would snatch the food out of your child's, or mother's or partner's hands at the dinner table and let them go hungry if it was in your self interest to do so?
If not, why not?
This video illuminates the fallacy of the so called "selfish gene" theory and the equally fallacious and artificially imposed "every man for himself" story of capitalism.
It is in my Self Interest to make sure that all of my children and my husband are well fed and healthy.
Only a fool would snatch food from their children against their own self interest.
Exploit is to make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource). Is there something wrong with this in and of itself? No.
What would be wrong is to initiate violence or engage in coercion to accomplish exploitation and this is done by Government, not by Capitalists. Only Government is given the wrong, initiating violence and engaging in coercion as a right.
The world does not give me water. I must go out into the world and provide my self with water that is there. No one is going to bring me water, I must do that for myself out of my self interest otherwise I will die of thirst. To expect that someone will provide me with water is selfish and foolish and not in my Self Interest.
The world does not give me food. I must produce food that I then can eat. This requires a lot of production which is Time and Energy to successfully produce. The world just does not hand me a salad and say, there you go, I provided this for you so now you owe me a gift. That is not how the world is.
You and Mr. Jensen think like children.
The world is, and does not need anything from me. If I were to die today, the world would continue on.
I see you are a Marxist and deny human nature as it is and choose to believe that Self Interest is evil even though everything you do is done out of your own Self Interest.
Good luck with that. I chose to see reality as it is, not as I want it to be. You would be wise to do the same and stop trying to force your belief of how the world should be o. nto it for it will only result in your own suffering
Striving to embody the innate wisdom gifted by God into the hearts and minds of children (before their long path to become brainwashed self-interested 'consumers' takes place) is a central focus in my life, so I really appreciate you letting me know I am achieving that goal in this instance.
Thinking like a child is induced by Government because people who think like children are needy and easy to manipulate, just like children. Good luck with that.
How about initiating violence against an orca whale and coercing it to jump around in a cage for people's entertainment (for profit) ?
There are plenty of zoos that have done this, and they make huge profits from that violence and coercion. One could argue that humans can live without orca whales, so why bother showing them respect or compassion if it is not in our self interest to do so right?
I could go on but I think you get my point.
Do your "Capitalist morals" extend to and apply to non-human beings, or are humans the only ones deserving of such consideration?
This way of thinking you seem so passionate about convincing other people to embody has driven policy and motivated the wealthiest people on Earth to do what they have done over the last century.
Sounds like what I describe in the essay linked above this line is a big win for capitalism, Yay! Next we can strip the ocean floor for lithium to power our Tesla cars, that should offer another big victory for capitalism too.
When I speak of initiating violence or engaging in coercion, I am talking about humans.
It is childish to humanize trees and orcas. I prefer to think wisely, not childishly.
You cannot initiate violence against a tree to cut it down. Have you ever been in a forest? Trees are cut down naturally all the time. I have a two acre forest and I can assure you that if the trees are too close to each other, one of them is going to die.
I do think it is a grave mistake to cut down every single tree in a forest.
There is a right way to harvest trees and a wrong way. We want to ensure that there are trees in the future so it would be absolutely foolish to cut down every single tree as you advocate in your either or scenario.
Nature is a harmony, never so black and white as you make it seem.
Orca's love to play with their meal before they tare it to shreds. Are we to demonize them for doing so?
Orca's will often eat the liver of a shark, and discard the rest.
Are we to demonize them for being wasteful polluters?
Of course not.
Nature does not know math, and has no calculator "balancing" things out.
Nature is a dance of harmonious order. When an orca kills a shark for its nutrient dense liver, the rest of the animal is used up by other animals in a harmonious way.
We would be wise to follow natures order and ensure our actions are harmonious with natures order which means that yes,
I would like to let you know that there are many on this Earth that recognize the divine spark that exists within you, see you as worthy of love, compassion and respect. I am among them.
I see through the years of conditioning your have received that told you that it is "every man for himself" and that it is a "dog eat dog world" and back to the time when you were a little girl who was kind, selfless, trusting and reveled in the awesome beauty of Creator's many gifts to us. The little girl that saw the grace and beauty in the butterflies and saw them as worthy of loving and respecting without any self-interest being involved.
I speak now to that innate facet of you, that exists even now, buried under years of conditioning, when I say that you are capable of wonderous things and you are capable of giving gifts to this world that are dearly needed. The gifts I speak of exist in a place that money can never touch and self interested thinking can never perceive. I hope you unlock those gifts sister.
Thanks for taking the time to chime in and share your intuitive observation.
It would seem to be a pretty advanced one, and/or it is being prompted by a human to spit out specific arguments based on each individual comment, but either way it seems my discussion with the person (or chat bot) named "Sophia" is going no where fast and I find it disturbing hearing a person (or a chat bot) try to justify why it is okay to chop down thousand year old trees either way so i`m done engaging with her or it either way.
Would there ever be a reason to cut down 1000 year old trees? Not trying to be argumentative but just wondering what you thought.
I think most of the time, there would be another way and it's inconsiderate, but it's true that other non human animals can be destructive to existing life on the planet. Probably not nearly to the extent that we have, but to some extent other living things also destroy.
In fact, during the last ice age, massive cataclysmic events destroyed large sections of the planet that were eventually restored.
However, I get the points you make about not deliberately destroying for greed and selfishness and considering other living things noting that they add tremendous value to our own existence.
Not saying they only exist to please us, but trees, animals, and nature do add substantial value to human existence. I think most normal people recognize this, particularly children.
To love and have empathy is rewarding, biochemically. There is indeed something we get from loving and compassion, perhaps some call this "self interest". Although, I don't see it that way. We are wired for empathy because it serves a greater purpose.
I see, so rather than address what I am talking about, you would rather engage in logical fallacy, straw man ad hominin types.
The truth is that you do not want to have a debate with someone who does not believe the way you believe.
You have no argument against my statement that it would be ok to chop down a 1,000 year old tree as long as you made it possible for a few more trees to grow to 1,000 because that would be too logical for your "feelings" argument.
In fact I have yet to read anything from you that is logical, it is all "feel"good beliefs no logic, no facts, no wisdom, just feelings. Am I wrong?
Absurd. Your feelings are total wrong. I am a human, married to my husband for 21 years this January. But if you want to attack my person with strawman arguments, as with Peter and Gavin, you are free to do so. As for me, I want Facts, Logic and above all else, wisdom not feelings and beliefs which are transient and often wrong.
I do apologize if I'm wrong. It happens from time to time. I in no way wish to attack you. Wisdom is always a worthy goal. I hope you find that which you seek.
I am Spirit tuned to a body and so I am not found in this body just like the signal is not found in a radio.
Taking care of my Self Interest is not every man for himself nor is it a dog eat dog. That is Marxist propaganda.
Taking care of my Self means you do not have to take care of me.
You have it backwards, expecting others to take care of my Self Interest is what is Selfish.
Its true, I no longer think as a child. I see reality as it is, not as I wish it to be.
You have no understanding money. Money is not evil. Evil is what a person does.
A child that squishes a butterfly in ignorance is evil in ignorance. An adult that uses money to commit acts of violence against another person is evil knowingly. The evil is done by people, not things nor measures of things.
Money is a measure like time. People love to reify time as a thing but time only measures things. A clock is a thing that is used to measure time which is not a thing.
Money is an asset used in exchange for other assets that I can not provide for myself.
Money measures the Production of a thing and it measures the value of a thing just like time measures the mass and magnitude of a thing.
Both Production and Value come from me and not the money I use to measure them.
Re: "You have a tendency to glorify indigenous peoples"
Again, apparently you did not read my essay as I clearly stated: ...
"..I do think that placing any culture, group of people or individual on some pedestal as pure is unhealthy. I feel we should be vigilant to make sure we are not romanticizing their past nor romanticizing the potential of their worldviews to provide solutions to the present challenges we face.
I would also like to highlight the fact that psychopathy, greed and other anti-social traits are not unique to modern western culture. Unpleasant, selfish (and even sometimes ecologically degenerative) characteristics can be observed (overtly) in the traditions of specific isolated indigenous peoples (some of them were slave trading warlords and others may have respected the forest but were somewhat materialistic coveting ornate possessions).
Other indigenous peoples of Turtle Island refused to trade with people that enslaved others and wanted nothing to do with money (as was the case with some of the people that will be described in the excerpts I will share below who called the Eastern Woodlands, where I now live, home).
I feel that while no culture is perfect, and some may have lived in a way that expressed more compassion, ethical social structures and holistic thinking than others, one thing is certain, and that is that these starkly contrasted cultures offer us helpful sign posts as we attempt to navigate and forge a path towards a more honest, equitable, kind, abundant and regenerative future.
I acknowledge conflicts and rituals that existed in the Druidic ways and between the various indigenous tribes of what is now called North America, however I would suggest that we should keep in mind that demonization and dehumanization of the perceived “enemy” or targeted “sub-human class” of an empire is a time tested psychological warfare technique that has been employed in both real time conflicts and retrospectively as “victors write the history books”.... "
What are your thoughts on the so called "Indigenous Critique" (some of which I shared in my essay above with the words of Kandiaronk and the Mi’kmagq elders) ?
I have found that behind the thin veil of dismissiveness and avoidance of facing the implications of the Indigenous Critique, I often find an insecure ego based mind with a delusional superiority complex which they have attached to various geopolitical ego identities (such as nationalism/religiosity) and/or a kind of subconscious eugenicist ideology in which the one seeking to avoid and dismiss the implications of the Indigenous Critique actually secretly thinks that their genetic lineage is superior to that of other humans (though they will rarely admit to those delusional beliefs).
Nothing in nature as it is, is equitable. This is the language of a Marxist. I am not equal to a football player in playing football. I am not equal to a tree in producing leaves. I am not equal to a stream in producing flowing water. I am not equal to a storm producing rain. I am not equal to a bee producing honey.
I agree with you about equity not existing in nature. I don't think he is talking like a Marxist though, so I disagree with that assessment.
I think there are strengths and weakness to many cultures and people can take what's good and leave what they find unhelpful. Some indigenous cultures did have a better way of living in harmony with nature. Certainly not all of them. Also some western cultures also have unique ways of adding to the beauty of humanity, such as philosophers and builders of civilization that have been enjoyed by many people. Look at the old cities in Europe, some of the architecture is breath taking. There seems to be a balance of nature and artistically designed buildings.
The people talking here and debating are products of western civilization. That is undeniable. Therefore there must be good that comes from it. I'm a big believer in not throwing the baby out with the bathwater and harm reduction. Anyway, glad to hear different perspectives.
I completely agree with you. Nature is rewards what is good with persistence, for example, the bee's have been on this planet for millions of years. They do not pollinate plants for the benefit of the plant, the bee acts out of its own self interest, taking nectar from the plant to make honey. The bee has no interest at all in the plant being pollinated, that happens because the plant is looking out for its self interest and it lures the bee in with nectar it easily manufactures from C02 and sunlight and then its pollen is sticky so that it adheres to the bee who travels from plant to plant.
Each is looking out for their own self interest and when their interests are mediated harmoniously, they are rewarded with persistence.
What works for humanity will persist if it is harmonious with nature, if it is not, it will not persist.
We read the same books, and have come to the similar conclusions....it is good to not be alone. the only difference is that i studied the healing wisdom and spiritual practices of ancient cultures since 1991. Because religion and worldview determines a lot....
I am glad to be able to connect with someone that has walked a similar path for so much longer than me.
Do you have any books you would suggest that pertain to the Brehon Laws and Druidic medicinal, ecological and social cultural expressions? (re-tracing my ancestors footsteps is my current focus of research).
mostly i studied the herb lore, but it cannot be separated from the worldview......it is the came as in ayurveda, native american , fairy faith of the fairy doctors, herb lore...no difference.
this fellow is doing good work on that....https://brehonacademy.org/, but it is not in book form except some of the triads.....but people with modern minds will have a hard time of it. so i have gotten the most out of old books. Irish fairy tales by James Stephens, explains in it the other worlds(other dimensions) and how alien other energies are compared to humans. steve blamaries was handed down some of the old mentality and has books about developing consciousness. and then to that i add science..and experience.....https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26034691-200-mystery-of-the-quantum-lentils-are-legumes-exchanging-secret-signals/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=echobox&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1705927327 some early christiam stuff in ireland was , i strongly suspect a 5th column of brehon infiltrated the early church ---there is Oghm writing in this book and other very occult stuff, , if you can read latin https://archive.org/details/Byrhtferths_Saint_Johns_College_Oxford_MS.17... they were later wiped out tho....st. john of damascus, on angelology, is interesting....though i do not call them angels. some are malevolent, as in ancient lore. It is crucial to know the boundary of your own consciousness, from that which tries to influence you. people who do not, are vulnerable as all get out. know thyself. It's no joke. there is another super repressed faith, Dionysus i study. more of them were killed in the coliseum in ancient rome by far than christians, if Livy is to be believed. that one is especially hidden for important reason i think.
I appreciate how well you broke down the current system we have had forced upon us, and for offering alternative ways of being. As for the voluntaryism, the part where it believes in violence to "protect property", is where it goes off the rails for me. As long as people view the earth we all share as something to be carved up and owned, we will continue on a destructive path. In my perspective. In my view, until humans remember that we were put here to help take care of the earth, and share all it's abundance, we will be lost, wandering obliviously to our demise. The video of Robin was quite heartening however, and gave me confirmation that I am on the right track. There is a question I've been asking the universe, something I was doubting that I feel called to do, and her explanation of the prophecy answered my question. Though I kinda already knew the answer, it was nice to hear it from another source. Thanks so much.
Humans are not put here for any reason. We are not our bodies, we are spirit tuned to a body and we have forgotten who we are and suffer for our delusion that we are these bodies.
Is your body not your property? Are the things you produce also not your property? Nature has given animals an arsenal of weapons to protect their property with like claws, teeth, stingers. Even plants are given deadly chemicals to protect their property why would not humans also have the same right to defend their property?
I have thought about the question of "property" in the context of the Non-Aggression Principle (which is described as an integral facet of Voluntaryism by most scholars) and decided that I think the term "property" is too broad and ripe for abuse for me to endorse that definition unilaterally.
I`ll remove the image that mentions "property" above and explain how while I do embrace the majority of the way of seeing and interacting with others that Voluntaryism entails, my own personal view of the land and the beings I share it with does not define them as my "property" so I would describe my own willingness to defend myself as being limited to my dwelling, and the beings in my immediate vicinity (human or otherwise) that are unable to defend themselves and which may be harmed by an aggressor if I was to not intervene.
I am reading a book right now that looks at this question of what "property" is and how this idea came about and evolved here on Turtle Island which examines these phenomena from the Anishinaabe perspective (the people who called the land home where I now life centuries ago).
It is my hope I can gain new insights into these matters through taking a step back from the perspectives towards property that were programmed into me via my upbringing and government "education" to see this topic with fresh eyes. I`ll let you know if I discover anything worth sharing after I am done reading it.
Thanks again for sparking the introspection on the question of self-defense in the context of "property" and thanks for engaging in this discussion with an open heart.
I appreciate you taking the time to read my essay and I appreciate you highlighting your concern with the potentially destructive/degenerative consequences of the definition of Voluntarysim that I provided in that image where it mentioned using violence in self defense to "protect property".
I suppose when I read that myself what I imagined was a situation where a violent home invader was breaking into the house that we built (that house being the "property") and then my being willing to use violence to defend our home (my wife, myself and our four legged friends) from that violent invasion into our dwelling. When it comes to the living Earth outside that I strive to be a good steward of, the plants, fungi and animals that call that space home, I do not consider those as my "property" (though I imagine the law and my neighbors would), but rather I see them as living beings that I have a reciprocal relationship with.
Garden crops will grow back, our garden self sows and our perennials are robust, so I am not going to get in a knife fight over kale or paw paw fruit as we will have enough food in any case. So, for me, I would not be extending my will to defend myself outside of my home (unless perhaps I saw some humans torturing some animal for fun or carving up a healthy tree for no good reason other than to be cruel/callous).
Now that I contemplate the broader implications of the word "property" and how it might be twisted by those eager to expand it's meaning, I suppose I am not really on board with that aspect of the definition in the pic I shared in my essay ( in the sense that it could be abused by those that want to start becoming little mini-dictators, profiteering Earth pillagers and other unpleasant manifestations of behavior that involve one defining "property" in forever vague and expanding terms).
I may delete that particular image from the essay so that people do not get the wrong impression about my own personal stance on this, or maybe not, i`ll sleep on it first.
I look forward to exploring your and Mishelle's conversation further and taking another look at what you have shared in your comment with fresh eyes tomorrow.
Thanks for speaking from the heart and thanks for caring about not only our Mother Earth, but also our fellow beings who we share this world with.
Well if you do not believe you have any property other than your house, am I free to take all of the vegetables and fruit from the garden near your home that I need and want with out worry you may want to defend these things from being taken by me?
How about the money you may have that represents any production you may have done, I a free to take this money from you without fear of your protecting it as your property?
So you have not yet experienced the feral hogs digging up your entire garden just before harvest time I’m imagining! 😏. If you had I don’t think you’d be feeling quite so generous and sure. How would you get rid of them? It’s a huge issue in the south, we could use some good advice!
I have not! :) The animal food chain in the ecosystem is so degraded here that it would be a rare occasion if we saw a deer. It is mostly rabbits and squirrels which I have to 'forge alliances and treaties with' and/or strategically plan to distract/dissuade or deter from eating our essential staple crops as far as animals and them putting pressure on our garden harvests.
That must have been heartbreaking and frustrating to have them digging up the garden beds.
I suppose based on my experience with bears and deer when I was gardening out west in BC I can speculate that while I would feel heartbroken and frustrated (given what I know and how I perceive my fellow beings, human and non-human alike) I would also eventually embrace an acceptance that the land and what it provides is a gift from Mother Earth and Creator that is just as much intended for those four legged beings, as it was for myself. So, "generous", perhaps not, but resolute in my choice to avoid violence unless it is obsoletely required to protect my wife, myself or those helpless beings in our immediate vicinity, yes.
Re "How would you get rid of them?"
This is a great question and I am glad you asked it as our intention in the long term is to get out of this highly "developed" (aka ecologically decimated/monocultured) part of Turtle Island and move to an area where there is still an intact forest ecosystem and web of various animals and beings that call that place home present. So I am grateful you asked the question as considering this question will help me strategize for the future as I will inevitably be facing similar conundrums as I strive to build relationships with the beings that call that place home which involve respect and reciprocity.
Since I always look to nature for guidance, my first step would be to assess whether or not the population of the given animal that is digging up/foraging on my garden crops exists in an unnatural population density due to a crippling of the predator prey relationships they would have had in an intact ecosystem before humans may have interfered. If that was the case, I would attempt to encourage the predators that would have originally kept their numbers in check (and their grazing sporadic/well spread out) to set up shop in that ecosystem again, so they can do their important job in that web of relationships (as Mother Earth and Creator intended).
If introducing a wild alpha predator to that situation was not viable (due to lack of my ability to encourage them to set up shop there, the fact that I have domesticated animals outside that would be harmed or some other variable involving humans preferences/needs) I would seek to find the closest facsimile (likely a few large domesticated canines) and give them the job of patrolling that space in exchange for the food, companionship and shelter I would provide them.
If those potentials are not viable for what ever reason I would likely dive into understanding more about the biology, grazing habits and psychology of the herbivore/omnivore in question (which is digging up/foraging on my preferred garden crops) and see if there is some other aspect of their natural habits and relationship with their environment which I could extrapolate a strategy from to discourage or deter them from focusing on my garden as the place to dig and forage.
I am just spit balling off the top of my head, but I will give this some further thought and also inquire specifically about wild hogs with some permaculture designer friends I have that live down your way to see if they can offer any potential non-violent strategies which I have not thought of.
Thanks for the illuminating question and comment Mishelle.
Ah, so, instead of killing those who would take from your property, your garden, you build alliances with them to protect your property.
The land is not providing anything for you when you garden, if that were the case, all you would need to do is ask it to do so. You do not. You are "exploiting" the land to produce what you need to take care of your Self Interest in harmony with Natural Order.
Ann, I’d like to get a better idea where you are coming from. When you say ‘protect property’ do you also consider your own body as your property? I’d like to think I have the right to protect my body with violence, if necessary. And then, to extend that right to my children. And then, from there, to the home that keeps us safe, and the garden that feeds us. Does that sound reasonable to you?
I completely believe in self defense. And I will do anything necessary to protect myself and my children, or any human or being who cannot protect themselves. However I do not view a house or a garden the same. Houses can be rebuilt, gardens replanted. I also believe there are other ways to protect, that do not involve violence. Even in defense of bodily integrity, I believe in using the most minimal degree of force necessary to subdue an attack. Ideally, simply redirecting the attackers force, so it flows away from the intended target. Let them collapse from the weight of their own violence. I wish to see the earth return to a place of love, beauty and abundance for all, human and non human. Violence and anger will not get us there. That is why the darker forces on this earth attempt to keep people in a state of fear. They want people to respond with violence and anger against them or any "other" they can conjure. It helps to keep this world in darkness. We must relinquish fear, including fear of death, if we are to aid in ushering in a world of joy and abundance for all beings. A difficult task, I know, but one worthy of mastering if we truly love earth and wish to see her and all her life forms flourish.
Animals violently defend their homes. I had a birds nest and she was diligently warming her eggs when a snake came along and she used her sharp beak and her sharp claws to violently prevent the snake from eating her eggs.
Wolves and bears and tigers all mark their property with urine and violently destroy any interlopers onto their property.
Ants have the most amazing wars with each other over property resulting in millions of little dead ants.
So when you say dark forces are you talking about all kingdoms on the planet or just the human kingdom?
Also you say that a home can be rebuilt. So are you saying that if marauders where to go into your home and steal your property, food, clothing, tools money water etc you would just let them, and at the end if they tried to burn your house down you would just let them?
Thank you Ann, for sharing your heartfelt vision of a pathway towards a world without fear and a world where humans remember their innate unconditional love for the Earth and all her children.
“I will do anything necessary to protect myself and my children, or any human or being who cannot protect themselves.” How do you do this? And how do you protect them if you’re home and garden keep getting destroyed? I don’t ask facetiously, but out of lived experience. Redirecting the attackers’ force? So, you mean like barbed wire around the garden? I have seen this in many countries, as well as glass along the tops of the walls to keep out intruders. Would love to hear your solutions!
Well, if your home and garden keep getting destroyed, you might want to discover who is responsible and their reason for doing so. That would probably give you a clue as to what steps to take next. I don't have the answer for every individuals specific issues, especially without any context. I just know violence is most likely not the answer. And barbed wire and glass do inflict damage on wildlife, so probably not a good idea. If it were happening to me, I would have to know who and why before I could even begin to come up with a solution.
While I was considering my own personal experiences, I’m also speaking to the many others I’ve heard from. I’ve lived in ‘developing’ countries as well and this is a very common problem. I do mean thieves, of the human and four-legged variety. Of course the fencing helps keep out the wandering cows and deer and rabbits and dogs. We learned that after 3 years in a row of having our garden destroyed. But there’s also been new tractors stolen from our neighbors’ yards, and other farm property. In other countries they have to not only wall in their gardens, but also put shattered glass along the top to keep out people. I believe this will become the case in many border areas of the US as well. Electric fencing is popular, but that is easy for thieves to cut. Not in any of these cases did the who or the why become apparent--why do thieves steal? How do we catch them?
Thank you for pointing out these unnaturally common manifestations of fear, desperation and greed (expressed in the human behaviors you described in your comment) and thank you for pointing out the challenges of growing a garden while living within the territory of other beings (such as four legged beings) who also appreciate said source of food.
With regards to the human behaviors involving thievery (whether motivated by desperation, apathy and/or greed) I feel like addressing this phenomenon at its source cause requires taking a step back from looking at the instance of theft as the problem and the solution to be "How do we catch them?" to take a look at the more important question you asked which is "why do thieves steal?".
In order to look at this with fresh eyes it might benefit us to look at the two cultures I provided a cross section of in my essay above (The Druids, eventually Celts and the People of the Eastern Woodlands of Turtle Island).
Did thievery exist in their communities? Well, yes it appears it did as they had rules and ways of dealing with that behavior so it must have to some degree.
So humans living without a statist system still sometimes choose theft, this potential apparently manifests in peoples all over.
Perhaps more important question would be to ask, then, is how often did it occur on the two cultures I touched on above?
According to the Jesuit missionaries and French military officer's journals, they observed a stark contrast in the how much theft occurred in France and in their colonist communities than that which occurred within First Nation communities. That is, there was a very minimal amount of theft (or any violent crime) within those indigenous communities (say the outside observers that recorded their observations of the people that called this land home).
How did they deal with theft? or assaults, or murder for that matter? Well it seams that a shared theme among many of these stateless societies was that behaviors involving greed and self-interest were met with a fee being placed upon the entire family of the offender, to be paid to the victim (or family of the victim) of said crime. This offered an incentive for families to keep a keen eye on anti-social , sociopathic and greedy behavior of those in their family and to mitigate it or offer pathways to healing before the crime occurs (requiring them all to pay for it). Those who continue to steal or attack regardless others were banished from the community to fend for themselves.
As I read this book on Brehon Law and the ancient Druidic ways I find a similar law and social system in how they dealt with thievery and other crimes.
Another theme shared by both cultures is that letting a person go hungry, unclothed or unsheltered if they had nothing was considered very dishonorable (in fact, in Brehon Law, if one turned away a starving or freezing traveler, this was an offence against the law and the moral standing of that family in the community).
Today we have an abundance of thieves, violent criminals and scam artists. It seems an inordinately larger ratio of the population than was the case in those two cultures I described above, but why is that?
People like Sophia (who commented above) think that everyone is inherently self-interested and we are all just like vicious feral dogs fighting for scraps, but explorations of certain pockets of history and cultures from our past show that to be an incomplete and perhaps completely fallacious view of human nature and our place in this world.
So how does our modern society contrast those ancient ways of being and interacting? What is it about our modern day society that elicits such frequent expression of behavior such as thievery?
Well, for one I would say that it is the artificially programmed mentality that people like Sophia are indoctrinated into from a young age (and then go on to try and push on others in adulthood) but in addition to that I would say that the way we build and organize communities now is also a major influencing factor in that equation.
Psychopaths and sociopaths can navigate within a massive city so much easier than in a small community, thus the very existence of these unnatural and unsustainable hyper-concentrated gatherings of artificial human habitation breeds conditions that allow for thieves and murders to thrive and multiply (not in a genetic sense, but rather due to the way that psychopaths and sociopaths are drawn to positions of power and then they end up influencing others in their communities through what JC describes as "The Projections Of Psychopaths" https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/dissent-into-madness-projections
Then, above the modern city and its psychological influences, we have the psychological influence of the system of involuntary governance itself (which I explored in the essay above, and which again, is a way of organizing society and our interactions that breeds greed and criminal behavior to unnatural levels).
In short, today's industrialized city communities and statist regimes are thief factories, and the mechanisms which were shown to effectively mitigate or prevent such behavior much more effectively in certain ancient cultures cannot exist within a mega city or within communities driven by the violent coercion of the state.
Thus we see the imperative of creating parallel systems and intentional communities, that can re-plant the seeds of the true bonds of community, which are rooted in compassion, hard work, honesty and cherishing the natural world that such communities depend on to survive.
Thanks for the comment and thanks for asking some great questions.
Anarchy, yes, another one on the problematic word list for sure! But, I do believe what we had before colonization was a kind of voluntarism for most of times and places, so it shouldn’t be terribly difficult to relearn such ways, right? I think we first need to give up the notion that ‘we’ were the colonizers, and ‘they’ were the colonized, because it is not a true picture at all.
We are lucky to have so much information now at our fingertips, plus a bit of time and freedom to do the research, and wonderful like-minded, wise partners to share our journeys with!
Such good timing I had to share further what I’ve just been reading in 33 Myths of the System by Darren Allen: “Anarchy?! Don’t you realize that without the system—the state, capitalism, socialism, whatever—we would all be murdering, raping and exploiting each other? There would be anarchy!
“This word, ‘anarchy’ can only indicate the nightmares of hell for those who rule. Nevermind that enormous, well organized societies have existed without states or central control, nevermind that we have been murdering, raping and exploiting earth other only since the beginning of the system and the invention of states and that the perfected corporate-state is the most exploitative there has ever been, nevermind that we know in our hearts we do not need the system and its laws to rule over us and, finally, nevermind that cooperation, not competition, predominates in free nature—that only a madman, or a scientist, could find nature fundamentally, or even mostly, violent. Nevermind all that. “We need the system” say those who know full well that this is the precise opposite of the truth. The system needs us, and it always has.”
If cooperation not competition predominates nature then what are the male deer's doing when they are head butting each other to death for the privilege of inseminating a female?
What about when an Orca kills a shark and eats its liver discarding the rest?
There is nothing wrong with having a "system" that is in harmony with the Order of Nature and we do have that system, all though governments have tried to destroy it and that system is Free Market Capitalism which has been corrupted by Government into the current destructive system of Marxist Cronyism.
Awesome essay Gavin, so much to explore! I’ve also been wanting to learn more about the Celts and Druids for several years but have not yet ventured into that territory--just been collecting some titles for future study. I love studying history, real history, not fake war history and the nonsense shoved down our throats in school. It’s really tough to get to any degree of truth, as your meme demonstrates, so very much to unlearn before the real learning, or maybe, unveiling is a better word.
Speaking of words, I don’t like the word ‘love’ in this context, never have. I’ve complained about it a few times on my own blog, but I find it over-used and too cliched to have the impact it needs to have. Our culture no longer attaches the word “love” to the word “care”, as in, connecting the passive term to the active participation required for its flourishing. Most think of love as romantic love, the kind of thing which just rushes over you in a fit of hormonal intensity, which drives us to do things outside our comfort zone, to compromise for another, or devote ourselves to their well-being. The idea we should all ‘love one another’ is creepy to me! I’m being a bit of a ‘word Nazi’ perhaps 😀 but words do cast spells. If the word is not casting the right spell, what good is it? After all, most folks say they love nature. My mom believes she loves nature--but that is the love of nature from the comfort of her new couch in her climate-controlled house far too large for one old lady looking out her window at the bird feeder from Walmart in the still rapidly-growing city suburbs. We need another word, imo. If I had a better one I’d offer it, but I keep looking. “Courage” if we kept the “coeur” (heart) in it? Maybe coin a new word?! -‘Coeurcare’ -- “heartcare” LOL! 😂. I’ll keep working on it!!
You mentioned kindness being perceived as weakness in our culture--so true. And, even worse, sensitivity is perceived as weakness as well. Yet it is precisely sensitivity that we should be cultivating. Once we become sensitive to our surroundings, we become in tuned, we start hearing what it needs, it starts to feel very reciprocal, and that feels magical!
And on studying history, ‘alternative’ history as they are calling it, I’ve learned one crucial thing that I now accept as true. In the US there were many centuries, which are pretty much scrubbed from our mainstream history, where ‘civilized’ city centers existed, relatively peacefully, with ‘natives’ in the large expanse of wilderness (aka ‘unincorporated’) areas. Movement between ‘civilized’ people and ‘wilderness’ people was fairly common during this time. The ‘mound-builders’ peacefully co-existed not only with neighboring tribes but also with those living in the well-established city centers, many of which were destroyed. I find contemplating this hidden history more compelling than the popularized narratives, which have been mostly written from the standpoint of conquered peoples, who have long been colonized. (Let’s not forget, the ‘modern Europeans’ were not the first or only populations living side-by-side with the indigenous peoples--the floods of populations came after the lands were made ‘safe’ but there were many different races here for ages before that). This has led me to believe the Constitution was never truly a ‘founding document’ and never worked as (perhaps) was intended, was not approved of by the populations who lived here at that time, and was more like a ‘conquest document’ forcing laws onto populations which did not want, need or care for them. In other words, before Africa was colonized, the US was colonized, and there were not just ‘indigenous’ or ‘uncivilized’ peoples here at the time.
So nice to share ideas like this, thank you so much for your compelling work that has the power to get us all pondering and talking about the important, indeed crucial, topics to take back our history, our nature and our true selves!! 🤗
Care is Old English caru, cearu "sorrow, anxiety, grief," also "burdens of mind; serious mental attention," in late Old English also "concern, anxiety caused by apprehension of evil or the weight of many burdens," from Proto-Germanic *karō "lament; grief, care" (source also of Old Saxon kara "sorrow;" Old High German chara "wail, lament;" Gothic kara "sorrow, trouble,
The meaning "charge, oversight, attention or heed with a view to safety or protection" is attested from c. 1400; this is the sense in care of in addressing (1840). The meaning "object or matter of concern" is from 1580s. To take care of "take in hand, do" is from 1580s; take care "be careful" also is from 1580s.
So care is an action.
Love does not require action. Love is inertial, accelerative and certainly not the "feelings" of rushing hormones which is "lust".
Interestingly, the Greeks had 8 words for love.
1 Eros is physical love or sexual desire. Eros is the type of love that involves passion, lust, and/or romance
2 Philia is affectionate love. Philia is the type of love that involves friendship.
3 Agape is often defined as unconditional, sacrificial love. Agape is the kind of love that is felt by a person willing to do anything for another, including sacrificing themselves, without expecting anything in return. Philosophically, agape has also been defined as the selfless love that a person feels for strangers and humanity as a whole. Agape is the love that allows heroic people to sacrifice themselves to save strangers they have never met.
4 Storge is familial love. Storge is the natural love that family members have for one another.
5 Mania is obsessive love. Mania is the kind of “love” that a stalker feels toward their victim.
6 Pragma is practical love. Pragma is love based on duty, obligation, or logic
7 Philautia is self-love. No, not that kind. Philautia refers to how a person views themselves and how they feel about their own body and mind.
8 ludus
Original Latin: Bucking the trend, the word ludus comes from Latin rather than Greek. In Latin, lūdus means “game” or “play,” which fits with the type of love it refers to. One possible Greek equivalent is the word ερωτοτροπία, meaning “courtship.”
Ludus is playful, noncommittal love. Ludus covers things like flirting, seduction, and casual sex.
Mishelle, Just a note about the word love. From my perspective, just bcuz the population has distorted the actual meaning of the word love, doesn't mean we should find a new word to replace it. Instead, we should take its actual meaning and embody it. Unconditional love fills us at birth and we give it to all that hold us, without discrimination. It isn't until we begin to understand what our parents, teachers and others who came here before us are saying, that we start to alter our ways and choose only certain beings (humans and animals) to love. However, in truth, love was meant to be shared with all as we connect. Love is an energy, not just an emotion and as such we can love anything or anyone just by releasing some of that energy towards it. We can love nature (as your mother believes she does) or true history ( as you say you do) and we can love people we do not know, as well as those who believe they have an aversion to us. Love isn't about an exchange. Love isn't meant to be given to be recieved. Rather it is an energy that spills over from what is within us and like one gets dampened with the water spilling over from a water fall, those who are filled with unconditional love will exude it and shower others with sprinklings of love. Unconditional love, is true love and has nothing to do with having to tolerate behavior that doesn't work for us. We can love from afar if that is what we choose but that doesn't mean we stop loving. In closing, I send you much love from my heart to yours.
I am not sure how my comment got attached to your comment. I was commenting on Mishelle Shepards comment about "cooperation, not competition, predominates in free nature" It doesn't, it is more a harmony that is the order of Nature, not cooperation, not balance, harmony.
I also earlier commented on the Greeks 8 different words for love depending on the kind of love it is.
I totally agree with your statement that love is energy all though humanity has no real understanding of what energy is. They think it is force and motion which is the loss of energy like an explosion.
Like you said, love is like something that is full, a better word would be inertial, or pure potential and what we experience as feelings is not love but rather the loss of its potential.
Similar to the concept you tried to convey with the water fall. But a water fall is not spilling from excess water, it is a drop in the pathway of water that creates a water fall.
A spring that bubbles up from the earth would probably be a better example after all, water is created from the earth the same as hydrocarbons from the pure potential of the earth center dynamo of pure potential manufacturing all that hydrogen powered by the sun through the poles and under all that pressure of the mantle where the carbon and oxygen are found, that hydrogen binds to them creating water and hydrocarbons that then bubble up from the earth.
Yes, you are 100% correct, love does not do anything, it is the opposite of doing. One can love something and do nothing for it or to it. I love to watch the sunset. That is literally doing nothing, an inertial nonaction.
Thank you for explaining what your original comment under mine was about. Thank you also for sharing your perspectives on what i wrote and what you understand it to be. I am grateful.
I really appreciate your elucidation on the limitations of the word "love" and how it's meaning is often warped and watered down in our modern reductionist/materialistic modern society. My wife calls it the "Me Society". Entire generations of self-entitled humans growing up being conditioned to think only of how each choice will benefit their own pleasure and profit, a very sad state of affairs indeed.
I see what you mean regarding the word love, and I like the idea of using a different word to describe what I was trying to speak about. I suppose I could add the word "unconditional" before the word love as that does get closer to what I was speaking of, though I am open to finding something even better. For now that will have to do. I will meditate on this further. Thank you for holding up the mirror for me in this way.
Thank you for sharing your insights and knowledge of the ancient peoples of what some call Turtle Island and Africa. I think your description of the "‘conquest document’ forcing laws onto populations which did not want" is very apt.
Here is some additional info regarding the ancient (stateless) Celtic/Druidic society.
"For nearly a millennium, the Irish lived without a state under a legal system known as Brehon Law.”
I am grateful you read this super long post and that you are open minded enough to contemplate these aspects of history and present day governance systems.
Many hear anything like the word "anarchy" or even "voluntaryism" and totally shut down or start freaking out due to the deep conditioning we have all received that told us how "necessary" governments are in our lives.
I appreciate your candid observations and thoughtful comments and hope to discuss this topic more with you as time allows.
Fantastic article, shared among my colleagues, so glad I found your work.
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- How we can solve most if not ALL of the world's biggest problems (War, Political Corruption, Scarcity, World Hunger, Food Insecurity, Mental Illness, Cancer, Heart Disease, Infertility, Environmental Pollution and Deforestation, Poverty and Unemployment, Mass Extinction, Tyranny, The Rise of Artificial Intelligence) through Permaculture Food Forests (the science of working with nature to best grow food with lowest effort, highest yield) . Look up Jim Gale and Food Forest Abundance. We grow food instead of lawns, and we reach out to influencers to make this happen on a mass scale, and we become free in so many ways, it's very simple and powerful. Jim has 50 acres in Central FL, totally off-grid. I'm in touch with him. Here is a quick video I did on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S63VSBV2Z8Y and here is a great interview he did with Del Bigtree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJEihCcRH0c More info: t.me/foodforestabundance and a powerful video I did as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6VMo33Vx7Y Check out this video I did on the Earth Council, which Jim created, featuring many world leading doctors, scientists and content creators on freedom and self-sustainability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVgqWJYrAc4
- How slavery still exists, and by our own consent. How mental slavery is the most dangerous and how "political slavery" as said by previous historical Abolitionists, is at the root to ALL slavery. This is why I call myself an Abolitionist. This is detailed in my summit and also my rendition of my Slavery Gone For Good book which features 400+ pages of quotes on psychology, philosophy, former slaves and 19th century Abolitionists. Similarly, how 19th century Abolitionists (and Quakers before them) and their "nonresistance" would influence writers like Leo Tolstoy (known as one of the greatest authors of all time), who would then directly influence Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. in their acts of "civil disobedience." More info on this: https://theliberator.us/book I am willing to provide this book to you for free, digital or in-person paperback.
- How "statism" is the "most dangerous superstition" as detailed by Larken Rose, it's knowledge contributes to "the end of all evil" as said by Jeremey Locke (unknown author) and "the one true divide" as said by Mark Passio (his best work is his "Natural Law: The Real Law of Attraction" seminar, he escaped the Church of Satanism). Inversely, the solution of "voluntaryism" as affirmed by psychology, the idea that we can live in a voluntary world (a world based in consent), to end all political slavery and divide, morality and the golden rule without contradiction. As in medicine, we must get to the root cause, without symptom management and distraction. I have made many charts on this subject (such as The Statist Criterion, which also details Shadow Work and Socratic Methods), and have shown this knowledge to be the ONLY true solution to the "controversial" Dr. Stanley Milgram experiments. I also hold many huge projects for everyone to contribute to this education, including medical projects which focus on the science of it which hasn't been done (with ex-scientologists and others in the field who see left-brain imbalance, among other concerns; anyone from the medical community may join this or critique our work, we've gathered research material over the years). I've also developed AI chat-bots to challenge an individual's worldview using questions, and quizzes as well. (This ties into the slavery issue) Learn more here: https://theliberator.us/slavery
- How the Ancient Chinese (through the philosophy of Taoism) were the FIRST to discuss profound liberty and spiritual ideas in action, and openly rebel against dogmatic systems. There are also a number of different philosophers we never learn about in history, with very profound writings like Lysander Spooner. Dr. Carl Jung was fascinated by Taoism and the I-Ching, as it has strong correlates to psychology. I'm also willing to provide this book for free. Taoism emphasized a connection to nature (much like Stoicism which is growing in popularity), and most people in the West don't know about it, despite it being closely connected with Feng Shui, Qigong, Tai-Chi, TCM, etc.
Thanks to all your work, I hope this may assist, please feel free to reach out. I'm open to ideas. I have many projects not shared here. It is my goal to effect change in the world.
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Cory Edmund Endrulat, All My Links: https://taplink.cc/coryhealth
Integrative Nutrition Health Coach, 7-Time Author, Organizer, Content Creator, The Liberator 2 News Editor
Greetings Brother
Thanks for the thoughtful introduction, helpful resources/info and kind words about my work.
I appreciate you sharing an overview of your journey to get to where you are now and thank you for the important work you have been doing.
I am familiar with the work of Jim Gale, I referenced his work in my interview with James Corbett on Regenerative Agriculture ( which you can find here: https://corbettreport.com/regenerative-agriculture/ ). I was also inspired to share malus sieversii seeds from our tree with dozens of people all over the world by something that Jim said ( more on that here: https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/you-can-count-the-seeds-in-a-single )
I studied with Dr. Elaine Ingahm via one of her online courses and I have also posited that regenerative agroforestry (food forest gardening) is one of the most powerful leverage points and solutions we can embrace and lend our energy towards as individuals seeking to make our local communities (and this world at large) a better, more just, resilient, abundant, decentralized, honest, equitable, inspiring and beautiful place to live (and give to future generations).
I explored some of the reasons why I (as you) believe that to be the case in this essay:
https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/in-pursuit-of-an-antidote-for-parasites
My second book is going to be focusing on providing the reader with a trail map all the way from a handful of seeds to a climax ecosystem self-perpetuating food forest (also including information on combining harvests and preserving to create synergistic natural medicines using food from the forest garden).
I like the sound of your booked titled "Sapientia Naturae: The Wisdom Of Nature" and the "Slavery Gone For Good: Black Book Edition" looks intriguing as well. Would you be interested in skipping over the use of fiat currency and doing a trade (a copy of my first book "Recipes For Reciprocity: The Regenerative Way From Seed To Table" and perhaps some select rare/high value heirloom seeds from my collection) for one or two of your books?
I am open to using fiat if you prefer, though I do like to avoid giving Jeff Bezos more money if possible.
I like the idea of collaborating with you in some way in the future and look forward to learning more about your work as time allows (I have been very busy working on propagating endangered food and medicine tree species locally for several months now working on multiple community food forest projects so my time online is minimal right now).
Thanks for reaching out, I am always glad to connect with a kindred spirit.
May the sun shine brightly for you illuminating all the genius in Creator's design which is embodied in a single leaf, if it is raining may the rhythm sooth your mind and nourish your crops and if it is windy may you catch a whisper on it in the dancing grass and the movement of our wise rooted elders.
Hey man! I would absolutely be down to do a book trade with you!
And so glad to hear from you, love meeting fellow authors as well!
Beautiful words, truly.
Email me if you can so we can exchange theliberator2news@gmail.com
I have several projects coming up, and we may indeed collab, would love to see it!
Thanks so much!!
Thank you for your enthusiasm and non-fiat exchange accommodating attitude.
I am busy for the next couple days but I have sent you an email from my proton account to open a line of communication for the future.
I am glad what I wrote resonates.
Honored to walk this path along side you brother.
Governments actually do not borrow from banks directly.
The Fed Bank sells the Government debt on the open market and it is purchased by People, Institutions and other Governments.
The largest holder of US Debt is the average joe out there through their Social Security contributions which purchase US Debt as their only asset. Most 401K's own anywhere from 40 to 60% government debt as an asset.
Many corporations own Government debt.
Many Pensions own large amounts of Government Debt and the Government has passed laws making it mandatory that Banks must hold Government debt as their Reserves.
So you see first, banks do not just create the money out of thin air, they get it from us and other governments and from bank deposits.
The interest on the debt the government pays is collected from taxes and worst, the government does not really pay off debt, they borrow money by rolling old debt over in new debt to pay the old debt and that is how the US got to 34 trillion.
It would be like you borrowing money from the credit card company every month to pay the debt.
Worse, Governments are CHRONIC defaulters and the Great Reset is all about the current Government Default which is a default on you, your bank and other countries.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and share your perspectives on the subject of fiat money creation and national debts to banksters.
While I could argue with you about the purpose, history and "Economic Hitmen" (predatory lending) practices of entities such as the BIS and IMF, those minutia are not really important in the broader context of the truths I presented in the essay above. I think you may have missed the point of what I was attempting to invite the reader to consider with regards to Statism.
Lets take a step back from this material you presented regarding who exactly is creating debt (through fractional reserve lending) and fiat money and ask ourselves the question, "Why can those individuals and institutions do that and you or I cannot?".
Is it because some people I have never met in some room far away from where I live, wrote something on some paper and signed it (calling this a "law" that now is able to be enforced with violence onto me) ?
You may recognize the proclamations of statists as worthy and legitimate, however, I deem their claimed authority as illegitimate and reject their self-appointed monopoly on having a legal right to create fiat currency and lend fraudulently (fractional reserve lending). Furthermore, I see the very existence of the involuntary coercion and violence enforced legal system which they claim that have given them such rights as immoral and a recipe for massive corruption and the destruction of the biosphere we depend on to survive.
I will attempt to summarize some of the more important points from my essay for you here in case you did not have time to read my whole essay.
All throughout history Statist empires sought to steal the land from and impose their will upon people who had chosen to live in close connection to the land and the forest (in state-less societies) by assigning them with the dehumanizing, condecending and derisive label of being "uncivilized"/"savage".
As Lyla astutely points out (in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lljSJVF6wgY ), this was/is not only true of how the statists sought to annihilate, assimilate and pillage the cultures and lands of the diverse peoples of Turtle Island. It was also true (and is still also true) for how statist regimes have sought (and continue to seek) to do the same to other people who lived (and live) in close relationship with the living Earth all over the world.
This was true of my blood ancestors in the Druidic (and then eventually Celtic) nations and it is true now in how the Canadian government and corporations are imposing their will upon those people who live in areas where profitable minerals exist in the ground that they want to get their hands on.
The time has come for us to ask ourselves the question, Have we been tricked by "Civilization"? and where do our true allegiances lie?
Do we swear our allegiance to a flag/nation state/"civilization" or do we swear our allegiance to the Living Earth?
As I outlined in my essay, there is no middle road in answering that question, because one is antithetical to the other.
Thanks again for the comment.
Thank you for pointing out that the tactics of the BIS and IMF have nothing to do with the Fed Bank nor the US Debt.
I have not missed your point, I agree with the statement that Statism is evil. It just does not do evil to people who desire to live in harmony with the land, it is evil to all who oppose its edicts.
You have a tendency to glorify indigenous peoples without acknowledging that their ways of living in harmony with the land have degenerated into evil states as well.
All things in manifestation are tied to a cycle of birth growth and death. Society comes together out of Mutual Self Interest and degenerates through pitting one group against another at the behest of those in Power, the State.
I have loaned money out to people, at interest. Nothing stopped me from doing so. I can currently purchase corporate debt which is me loaning money to a corporation and the corporation pays me an interest payment. Debt is just money that pays interest.
The problem is not you and I loaning out money, or banks loaning out money. The problem is when Government, the state, borrows money and forces you and I to pay for it.
Fraudulent is defined as obtained, done by, or involving deception and I would also add coercion and violent force. None of these things are done by the bank when they loan money out. It is only when the Government borrows money that fraud is engaged.
Do you blame the gun seller for the murder done by someone they sold a gun to? Of course not. So why do you blame the banks for the evil done by the Government?
I am not saying that all banks are saints or victims. Goldman Sachs and Chase and Wellsfargo have all done very evil things and I am not talking about those individual evils nor am I excusing them. However, it is the Government that gives them a free pass. In a Free Market, those banks would go bankrupt due to the evils they do.
The Celts were destroyed by the Catholic Church.
Not all corporations impose their will on the People, only those corporations who pay the highest bribe to the "representative" or Bureaucrat in Government. If there were no Representatives or bureaucrats to bribe or blackmail, the corruption would end.
No one has been tricked by civilization. We come together in a Society out of Mutual Self Interest and Mutual Benefit and that is destroyed by Government pitting one group against another.
My allegiance lies to my Self Interest, the invisible hand of the economy as written in the Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith. It is out of Self Interest that I make sure not to pollute my environment not out of some allegiance to the planet.
Self Interest governs all human behavior. It becomes corrupted when one group is given power over all others.
RE: "Self Interest governs all human behavior."
Does that mean you would snatch the food out of your child's, or mother's or partner's hands at the dinner table and let them go hungry if it was in your self interest to do so?
If not, why not?
This video illuminates the fallacy of the so called "selfish gene" theory and the equally fallacious and artificially imposed "every man for himself" story of capitalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-DT5fqutQ
It is in my Self Interest to make sure that all of my children and my husband are well fed and healthy.
Only a fool would snatch food from their children against their own self interest.
Exploit is to make full use of and derive benefit from (a resource). Is there something wrong with this in and of itself? No.
What would be wrong is to initiate violence or engage in coercion to accomplish exploitation and this is done by Government, not by Capitalists. Only Government is given the wrong, initiating violence and engaging in coercion as a right.
The world does not give me water. I must go out into the world and provide my self with water that is there. No one is going to bring me water, I must do that for myself out of my self interest otherwise I will die of thirst. To expect that someone will provide me with water is selfish and foolish and not in my Self Interest.
The world does not give me food. I must produce food that I then can eat. This requires a lot of production which is Time and Energy to successfully produce. The world just does not hand me a salad and say, there you go, I provided this for you so now you owe me a gift. That is not how the world is.
You and Mr. Jensen think like children.
The world is, and does not need anything from me. If I were to die today, the world would continue on.
I see you are a Marxist and deny human nature as it is and choose to believe that Self Interest is evil even though everything you do is done out of your own Self Interest.
Good luck with that. I chose to see reality as it is, not as I want it to be. You would be wise to do the same and stop trying to force your belief of how the world should be o. nto it for it will only result in your own suffering
Good luck with that.
Re: "You and Mr. Jensen think like children."
Thank you, I appreciate you saying so.
Striving to embody the innate wisdom gifted by God into the hearts and minds of children (before their long path to become brainwashed self-interested 'consumers' takes place) is a central focus in my life, so I really appreciate you letting me know I am achieving that goal in this instance.
Thinking like a child is induced by Government because people who think like children are needy and easy to manipulate, just like children. Good luck with that.
RE: "What would be wrong is to initiate violence or engage in coercion to accomplish exploitation and this is done by Government, not by Capitalists."
What about initiating violence against a thousand year old Douglas Fir ?
People like the lady I mention in this post: https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/a-few-books-i-am-currently-readingre? feel that there are some great profits to he had in such activities and clearcutting old growth forests is 'good for the economy' so we should go for it!
How about initiating violence against an orca whale and coercing it to jump around in a cage for people's entertainment (for profit) ?
There are plenty of zoos that have done this, and they make huge profits from that violence and coercion. One could argue that humans can live without orca whales, so why bother showing them respect or compassion if it is not in our self interest to do so right?
I could go on but I think you get my point.
Do your "Capitalist morals" extend to and apply to non-human beings, or are humans the only ones deserving of such consideration?
This way of thinking you seem so passionate about convincing other people to embody has driven policy and motivated the wealthiest people on Earth to do what they have done over the last century.
As you can see, it has been extremely effective in generating fiscal "capitol" and profits in the name of self interest: https://gavinmounsey.substack.com/p/death-by-a-thousand-clearcuts
Sounds like what I describe in the essay linked above this line is a big win for capitalism, Yay! Next we can strip the ocean floor for lithium to power our Tesla cars, that should offer another big victory for capitalism too.
When I speak of initiating violence or engaging in coercion, I am talking about humans.
It is childish to humanize trees and orcas. I prefer to think wisely, not childishly.
You cannot initiate violence against a tree to cut it down. Have you ever been in a forest? Trees are cut down naturally all the time. I have a two acre forest and I can assure you that if the trees are too close to each other, one of them is going to die.
I do think it is a grave mistake to cut down every single tree in a forest.
There is a right way to harvest trees and a wrong way. We want to ensure that there are trees in the future so it would be absolutely foolish to cut down every single tree as you advocate in your either or scenario.
Nature is a harmony, never so black and white as you make it seem.
Orca's love to play with their meal before they tare it to shreds. Are we to demonize them for doing so?
Orca's will often eat the liver of a shark, and discard the rest.
Are we to demonize them for being wasteful polluters?
Of course not.
Nature does not know math, and has no calculator "balancing" things out.
Nature is a dance of harmonious order. When an orca kills a shark for its nutrient dense liver, the rest of the animal is used up by other animals in a harmonious way.
We would be wise to follow natures order and ensure our actions are harmonious with natures order which means that yes,
RE: "My allegiance lies to my Self Interest"
Some sentences speak a thousand words.
I appreciate your honesty and candor.
I would like to let you know that there are many on this Earth that recognize the divine spark that exists within you, see you as worthy of love, compassion and respect. I am among them.
I see through the years of conditioning your have received that told you that it is "every man for himself" and that it is a "dog eat dog world" and back to the time when you were a little girl who was kind, selfless, trusting and reveled in the awesome beauty of Creator's many gifts to us. The little girl that saw the grace and beauty in the butterflies and saw them as worthy of loving and respecting without any self-interest being involved.
I speak now to that innate facet of you, that exists even now, buried under years of conditioning, when I say that you are capable of wonderous things and you are capable of giving gifts to this world that are dearly needed. The gifts I speak of exist in a place that money can never touch and self interested thinking can never perceive. I hope you unlock those gifts sister.
It's possible I'm wrong, but I get a strong feeling Sophia's not human. I feel it's AI writing this. That's what I saw when I read the comments.
Hey Ann
Thanks for taking the time to chime in and share your intuitive observation.
It would seem to be a pretty advanced one, and/or it is being prompted by a human to spit out specific arguments based on each individual comment, but either way it seems my discussion with the person (or chat bot) named "Sophia" is going no where fast and I find it disturbing hearing a person (or a chat bot) try to justify why it is okay to chop down thousand year old trees either way so i`m done engaging with her or it either way.
Would there ever be a reason to cut down 1000 year old trees? Not trying to be argumentative but just wondering what you thought.
I think most of the time, there would be another way and it's inconsiderate, but it's true that other non human animals can be destructive to existing life on the planet. Probably not nearly to the extent that we have, but to some extent other living things also destroy.
In fact, during the last ice age, massive cataclysmic events destroyed large sections of the planet that were eventually restored.
However, I get the points you make about not deliberately destroying for greed and selfishness and considering other living things noting that they add tremendous value to our own existence.
Not saying they only exist to please us, but trees, animals, and nature do add substantial value to human existence. I think most normal people recognize this, particularly children.
To love and have empathy is rewarding, biochemically. There is indeed something we get from loving and compassion, perhaps some call this "self interest". Although, I don't see it that way. We are wired for empathy because it serves a greater purpose.
I see, so rather than address what I am talking about, you would rather engage in logical fallacy, straw man ad hominin types.
The truth is that you do not want to have a debate with someone who does not believe the way you believe.
You have no argument against my statement that it would be ok to chop down a 1,000 year old tree as long as you made it possible for a few more trees to grow to 1,000 because that would be too logical for your "feelings" argument.
In fact I have yet to read anything from you that is logical, it is all "feel"good beliefs no logic, no facts, no wisdom, just feelings. Am I wrong?
Absurd. Your feelings are total wrong. I am a human, married to my husband for 21 years this January. But if you want to attack my person with strawman arguments, as with Peter and Gavin, you are free to do so. As for me, I want Facts, Logic and above all else, wisdom not feelings and beliefs which are transient and often wrong.
I do apologize if I'm wrong. It happens from time to time. I in no way wish to attack you. Wisdom is always a worthy goal. I hope you find that which you seek.
I am Spirit tuned to a body and so I am not found in this body just like the signal is not found in a radio.
Taking care of my Self Interest is not every man for himself nor is it a dog eat dog. That is Marxist propaganda.
Taking care of my Self means you do not have to take care of me.
You have it backwards, expecting others to take care of my Self Interest is what is Selfish.
Its true, I no longer think as a child. I see reality as it is, not as I wish it to be.
You have no understanding money. Money is not evil. Evil is what a person does.
A child that squishes a butterfly in ignorance is evil in ignorance. An adult that uses money to commit acts of violence against another person is evil knowingly. The evil is done by people, not things nor measures of things.
Money is a measure like time. People love to reify time as a thing but time only measures things. A clock is a thing that is used to measure time which is not a thing.
Money is an asset used in exchange for other assets that I can not provide for myself.
Money measures the Production of a thing and it measures the value of a thing just like time measures the mass and magnitude of a thing.
Both Production and Value come from me and not the money I use to measure them.
Re: "You have a tendency to glorify indigenous peoples"
Again, apparently you did not read my essay as I clearly stated: ...
"..I do think that placing any culture, group of people or individual on some pedestal as pure is unhealthy. I feel we should be vigilant to make sure we are not romanticizing their past nor romanticizing the potential of their worldviews to provide solutions to the present challenges we face.
I would also like to highlight the fact that psychopathy, greed and other anti-social traits are not unique to modern western culture. Unpleasant, selfish (and even sometimes ecologically degenerative) characteristics can be observed (overtly) in the traditions of specific isolated indigenous peoples (some of them were slave trading warlords and others may have respected the forest but were somewhat materialistic coveting ornate possessions).
Other indigenous peoples of Turtle Island refused to trade with people that enslaved others and wanted nothing to do with money (as was the case with some of the people that will be described in the excerpts I will share below who called the Eastern Woodlands, where I now live, home).
I feel that while no culture is perfect, and some may have lived in a way that expressed more compassion, ethical social structures and holistic thinking than others, one thing is certain, and that is that these starkly contrasted cultures offer us helpful sign posts as we attempt to navigate and forge a path towards a more honest, equitable, kind, abundant and regenerative future.
I acknowledge conflicts and rituals that existed in the Druidic ways and between the various indigenous tribes of what is now called North America, however I would suggest that we should keep in mind that demonization and dehumanization of the perceived “enemy” or targeted “sub-human class” of an empire is a time tested psychological warfare technique that has been employed in both real time conflicts and retrospectively as “victors write the history books”.... "
What are your thoughts on the so called "Indigenous Critique" (some of which I shared in my essay above with the words of Kandiaronk and the Mi’kmagq elders) ?
I have found that behind the thin veil of dismissiveness and avoidance of facing the implications of the Indigenous Critique, I often find an insecure ego based mind with a delusional superiority complex which they have attached to various geopolitical ego identities (such as nationalism/religiosity) and/or a kind of subconscious eugenicist ideology in which the one seeking to avoid and dismiss the implications of the Indigenous Critique actually secretly thinks that their genetic lineage is superior to that of other humans (though they will rarely admit to those delusional beliefs).
Nothing in nature as it is, is equitable. This is the language of a Marxist. I am not equal to a football player in playing football. I am not equal to a tree in producing leaves. I am not equal to a stream in producing flowing water. I am not equal to a storm producing rain. I am not equal to a bee producing honey.
I agree with you about equity not existing in nature. I don't think he is talking like a Marxist though, so I disagree with that assessment.
I think there are strengths and weakness to many cultures and people can take what's good and leave what they find unhelpful. Some indigenous cultures did have a better way of living in harmony with nature. Certainly not all of them. Also some western cultures also have unique ways of adding to the beauty of humanity, such as philosophers and builders of civilization that have been enjoyed by many people. Look at the old cities in Europe, some of the architecture is breath taking. There seems to be a balance of nature and artistically designed buildings.
The people talking here and debating are products of western civilization. That is undeniable. Therefore there must be good that comes from it. I'm a big believer in not throwing the baby out with the bathwater and harm reduction. Anyway, glad to hear different perspectives.
I completely agree with you. Nature is rewards what is good with persistence, for example, the bee's have been on this planet for millions of years. They do not pollinate plants for the benefit of the plant, the bee acts out of its own self interest, taking nectar from the plant to make honey. The bee has no interest at all in the plant being pollinated, that happens because the plant is looking out for its self interest and it lures the bee in with nectar it easily manufactures from C02 and sunlight and then its pollen is sticky so that it adheres to the bee who travels from plant to plant.
Each is looking out for their own self interest and when their interests are mediated harmoniously, they are rewarded with persistence.
What works for humanity will persist if it is harmonious with nature, if it is not, it will not persist.
We read the same books, and have come to the similar conclusions....it is good to not be alone. the only difference is that i studied the healing wisdom and spiritual practices of ancient cultures since 1991. Because religion and worldview determines a lot....
I am glad to be able to connect with someone that has walked a similar path for so much longer than me.
Do you have any books you would suggest that pertain to the Brehon Laws and Druidic medicinal, ecological and social cultural expressions? (re-tracing my ancestors footsteps is my current focus of research).
Thanks for the comment.
mostly i studied the herb lore, but it cannot be separated from the worldview......it is the came as in ayurveda, native american , fairy faith of the fairy doctors, herb lore...no difference.
this fellow is doing good work on that....https://brehonacademy.org/, but it is not in book form except some of the triads.....but people with modern minds will have a hard time of it. so i have gotten the most out of old books. Irish fairy tales by James Stephens, explains in it the other worlds(other dimensions) and how alien other energies are compared to humans. steve blamaries was handed down some of the old mentality and has books about developing consciousness. and then to that i add science..and experience.....https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26034691-200-mystery-of-the-quantum-lentils-are-legumes-exchanging-secret-signals/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=echobox&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1705927327 some early christiam stuff in ireland was , i strongly suspect a 5th column of brehon infiltrated the early church ---there is Oghm writing in this book and other very occult stuff, , if you can read latin https://archive.org/details/Byrhtferths_Saint_Johns_College_Oxford_MS.17... they were later wiped out tho....st. john of damascus, on angelology, is interesting....though i do not call them angels. some are malevolent, as in ancient lore. It is crucial to know the boundary of your own consciousness, from that which tries to influence you. people who do not, are vulnerable as all get out. know thyself. It's no joke. there is another super repressed faith, Dionysus i study. more of them were killed in the coliseum in ancient rome by far than christians, if Livy is to be believed. that one is especially hidden for important reason i think.
I appreciate how well you broke down the current system we have had forced upon us, and for offering alternative ways of being. As for the voluntaryism, the part where it believes in violence to "protect property", is where it goes off the rails for me. As long as people view the earth we all share as something to be carved up and owned, we will continue on a destructive path. In my perspective. In my view, until humans remember that we were put here to help take care of the earth, and share all it's abundance, we will be lost, wandering obliviously to our demise. The video of Robin was quite heartening however, and gave me confirmation that I am on the right track. There is a question I've been asking the universe, something I was doubting that I feel called to do, and her explanation of the prophecy answered my question. Though I kinda already knew the answer, it was nice to hear it from another source. Thanks so much.
Humans are not put here for any reason. We are not our bodies, we are spirit tuned to a body and we have forgotten who we are and suffer for our delusion that we are these bodies.
Is your body not your property? Are the things you produce also not your property? Nature has given animals an arsenal of weapons to protect their property with like claws, teeth, stingers. Even plants are given deadly chemicals to protect their property why would not humans also have the same right to defend their property?
I have thought about the question of "property" in the context of the Non-Aggression Principle (which is described as an integral facet of Voluntaryism by most scholars) and decided that I think the term "property" is too broad and ripe for abuse for me to endorse that definition unilaterally.
I`ll remove the image that mentions "property" above and explain how while I do embrace the majority of the way of seeing and interacting with others that Voluntaryism entails, my own personal view of the land and the beings I share it with does not define them as my "property" so I would describe my own willingness to defend myself as being limited to my dwelling, and the beings in my immediate vicinity (human or otherwise) that are unable to defend themselves and which may be harmed by an aggressor if I was to not intervene.
I am reading a book right now that looks at this question of what "property" is and how this idea came about and evolved here on Turtle Island which examines these phenomena from the Anishinaabe perspective (the people who called the land home where I now life centuries ago).
The book is called "Becoming Kin: An Indigenous Call to Unforgetting the Past and Reimagining Our Future" By Patty Krawec. https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9781506478258/Becoming-Kin
It is my hope I can gain new insights into these matters through taking a step back from the perspectives towards property that were programmed into me via my upbringing and government "education" to see this topic with fresh eyes. I`ll let you know if I discover anything worth sharing after I am done reading it.
Thanks again for sparking the introspection on the question of self-defense in the context of "property" and thanks for engaging in this discussion with an open heart.
that looks like an interesting book!
I appreciate you taking the time to read my essay and I appreciate you highlighting your concern with the potentially destructive/degenerative consequences of the definition of Voluntarysim that I provided in that image where it mentioned using violence in self defense to "protect property".
I suppose when I read that myself what I imagined was a situation where a violent home invader was breaking into the house that we built (that house being the "property") and then my being willing to use violence to defend our home (my wife, myself and our four legged friends) from that violent invasion into our dwelling. When it comes to the living Earth outside that I strive to be a good steward of, the plants, fungi and animals that call that space home, I do not consider those as my "property" (though I imagine the law and my neighbors would), but rather I see them as living beings that I have a reciprocal relationship with.
Garden crops will grow back, our garden self sows and our perennials are robust, so I am not going to get in a knife fight over kale or paw paw fruit as we will have enough food in any case. So, for me, I would not be extending my will to defend myself outside of my home (unless perhaps I saw some humans torturing some animal for fun or carving up a healthy tree for no good reason other than to be cruel/callous).
Now that I contemplate the broader implications of the word "property" and how it might be twisted by those eager to expand it's meaning, I suppose I am not really on board with that aspect of the definition in the pic I shared in my essay ( in the sense that it could be abused by those that want to start becoming little mini-dictators, profiteering Earth pillagers and other unpleasant manifestations of behavior that involve one defining "property" in forever vague and expanding terms).
I may delete that particular image from the essay so that people do not get the wrong impression about my own personal stance on this, or maybe not, i`ll sleep on it first.
I look forward to exploring your and Mishelle's conversation further and taking another look at what you have shared in your comment with fresh eyes tomorrow.
Thanks for speaking from the heart and thanks for caring about not only our Mother Earth, but also our fellow beings who we share this world with.
Well if you do not believe you have any property other than your house, am I free to take all of the vegetables and fruit from the garden near your home that I need and want with out worry you may want to defend these things from being taken by me?
How about the money you may have that represents any production you may have done, I a free to take this money from you without fear of your protecting it as your property?
So you have not yet experienced the feral hogs digging up your entire garden just before harvest time I’m imagining! 😏. If you had I don’t think you’d be feeling quite so generous and sure. How would you get rid of them? It’s a huge issue in the south, we could use some good advice!
I have not! :) The animal food chain in the ecosystem is so degraded here that it would be a rare occasion if we saw a deer. It is mostly rabbits and squirrels which I have to 'forge alliances and treaties with' and/or strategically plan to distract/dissuade or deter from eating our essential staple crops as far as animals and them putting pressure on our garden harvests.
That must have been heartbreaking and frustrating to have them digging up the garden beds.
I suppose based on my experience with bears and deer when I was gardening out west in BC I can speculate that while I would feel heartbroken and frustrated (given what I know and how I perceive my fellow beings, human and non-human alike) I would also eventually embrace an acceptance that the land and what it provides is a gift from Mother Earth and Creator that is just as much intended for those four legged beings, as it was for myself. So, "generous", perhaps not, but resolute in my choice to avoid violence unless it is obsoletely required to protect my wife, myself or those helpless beings in our immediate vicinity, yes.
Re "How would you get rid of them?"
This is a great question and I am glad you asked it as our intention in the long term is to get out of this highly "developed" (aka ecologically decimated/monocultured) part of Turtle Island and move to an area where there is still an intact forest ecosystem and web of various animals and beings that call that place home present. So I am grateful you asked the question as considering this question will help me strategize for the future as I will inevitably be facing similar conundrums as I strive to build relationships with the beings that call that place home which involve respect and reciprocity.
Since I always look to nature for guidance, my first step would be to assess whether or not the population of the given animal that is digging up/foraging on my garden crops exists in an unnatural population density due to a crippling of the predator prey relationships they would have had in an intact ecosystem before humans may have interfered. If that was the case, I would attempt to encourage the predators that would have originally kept their numbers in check (and their grazing sporadic/well spread out) to set up shop in that ecosystem again, so they can do their important job in that web of relationships (as Mother Earth and Creator intended).
If introducing a wild alpha predator to that situation was not viable (due to lack of my ability to encourage them to set up shop there, the fact that I have domesticated animals outside that would be harmed or some other variable involving humans preferences/needs) I would seek to find the closest facsimile (likely a few large domesticated canines) and give them the job of patrolling that space in exchange for the food, companionship and shelter I would provide them.
If those potentials are not viable for what ever reason I would likely dive into understanding more about the biology, grazing habits and psychology of the herbivore/omnivore in question (which is digging up/foraging on my preferred garden crops) and see if there is some other aspect of their natural habits and relationship with their environment which I could extrapolate a strategy from to discourage or deter them from focusing on my garden as the place to dig and forage.
I am just spit balling off the top of my head, but I will give this some further thought and also inquire specifically about wild hogs with some permaculture designer friends I have that live down your way to see if they can offer any potential non-violent strategies which I have not thought of.
Thanks for the illuminating question and comment Mishelle.
Ah, so, instead of killing those who would take from your property, your garden, you build alliances with them to protect your property.
The land is not providing anything for you when you garden, if that were the case, all you would need to do is ask it to do so. You do not. You are "exploiting" the land to produce what you need to take care of your Self Interest in harmony with Natural Order.
Ann, I’d like to get a better idea where you are coming from. When you say ‘protect property’ do you also consider your own body as your property? I’d like to think I have the right to protect my body with violence, if necessary. And then, to extend that right to my children. And then, from there, to the home that keeps us safe, and the garden that feeds us. Does that sound reasonable to you?
I completely believe in self defense. And I will do anything necessary to protect myself and my children, or any human or being who cannot protect themselves. However I do not view a house or a garden the same. Houses can be rebuilt, gardens replanted. I also believe there are other ways to protect, that do not involve violence. Even in defense of bodily integrity, I believe in using the most minimal degree of force necessary to subdue an attack. Ideally, simply redirecting the attackers force, so it flows away from the intended target. Let them collapse from the weight of their own violence. I wish to see the earth return to a place of love, beauty and abundance for all, human and non human. Violence and anger will not get us there. That is why the darker forces on this earth attempt to keep people in a state of fear. They want people to respond with violence and anger against them or any "other" they can conjure. It helps to keep this world in darkness. We must relinquish fear, including fear of death, if we are to aid in ushering in a world of joy and abundance for all beings. A difficult task, I know, but one worthy of mastering if we truly love earth and wish to see her and all her life forms flourish.
Animals violently defend their homes. I had a birds nest and she was diligently warming her eggs when a snake came along and she used her sharp beak and her sharp claws to violently prevent the snake from eating her eggs.
Wolves and bears and tigers all mark their property with urine and violently destroy any interlopers onto their property.
Ants have the most amazing wars with each other over property resulting in millions of little dead ants.
So when you say dark forces are you talking about all kingdoms on the planet or just the human kingdom?
Also you say that a home can be rebuilt. So are you saying that if marauders where to go into your home and steal your property, food, clothing, tools money water etc you would just let them, and at the end if they tried to burn your house down you would just let them?
Thank you Ann, for sharing your heartfelt vision of a pathway towards a world without fear and a world where humans remember their innate unconditional love for the Earth and all her children.
“I will do anything necessary to protect myself and my children, or any human or being who cannot protect themselves.” How do you do this? And how do you protect them if you’re home and garden keep getting destroyed? I don’t ask facetiously, but out of lived experience. Redirecting the attackers’ force? So, you mean like barbed wire around the garden? I have seen this in many countries, as well as glass along the tops of the walls to keep out intruders. Would love to hear your solutions!
Well, if your home and garden keep getting destroyed, you might want to discover who is responsible and their reason for doing so. That would probably give you a clue as to what steps to take next. I don't have the answer for every individuals specific issues, especially without any context. I just know violence is most likely not the answer. And barbed wire and glass do inflict damage on wildlife, so probably not a good idea. If it were happening to me, I would have to know who and why before I could even begin to come up with a solution.
And yet bees will sting you and inject poison into you to protect their honey from being taken. Is that ok?
While I was considering my own personal experiences, I’m also speaking to the many others I’ve heard from. I’ve lived in ‘developing’ countries as well and this is a very common problem. I do mean thieves, of the human and four-legged variety. Of course the fencing helps keep out the wandering cows and deer and rabbits and dogs. We learned that after 3 years in a row of having our garden destroyed. But there’s also been new tractors stolen from our neighbors’ yards, and other farm property. In other countries they have to not only wall in their gardens, but also put shattered glass along the top to keep out people. I believe this will become the case in many border areas of the US as well. Electric fencing is popular, but that is easy for thieves to cut. Not in any of these cases did the who or the why become apparent--why do thieves steal? How do we catch them?
Thank you for pointing out these unnaturally common manifestations of fear, desperation and greed (expressed in the human behaviors you described in your comment) and thank you for pointing out the challenges of growing a garden while living within the territory of other beings (such as four legged beings) who also appreciate said source of food.
With regards to the human behaviors involving thievery (whether motivated by desperation, apathy and/or greed) I feel like addressing this phenomenon at its source cause requires taking a step back from looking at the instance of theft as the problem and the solution to be "How do we catch them?" to take a look at the more important question you asked which is "why do thieves steal?".
In order to look at this with fresh eyes it might benefit us to look at the two cultures I provided a cross section of in my essay above (The Druids, eventually Celts and the People of the Eastern Woodlands of Turtle Island).
Did thievery exist in their communities? Well, yes it appears it did as they had rules and ways of dealing with that behavior so it must have to some degree.
So humans living without a statist system still sometimes choose theft, this potential apparently manifests in peoples all over.
Perhaps more important question would be to ask, then, is how often did it occur on the two cultures I touched on above?
According to the Jesuit missionaries and French military officer's journals, they observed a stark contrast in the how much theft occurred in France and in their colonist communities than that which occurred within First Nation communities. That is, there was a very minimal amount of theft (or any violent crime) within those indigenous communities (say the outside observers that recorded their observations of the people that called this land home).
How did they deal with theft? or assaults, or murder for that matter? Well it seams that a shared theme among many of these stateless societies was that behaviors involving greed and self-interest were met with a fee being placed upon the entire family of the offender, to be paid to the victim (or family of the victim) of said crime. This offered an incentive for families to keep a keen eye on anti-social , sociopathic and greedy behavior of those in their family and to mitigate it or offer pathways to healing before the crime occurs (requiring them all to pay for it). Those who continue to steal or attack regardless others were banished from the community to fend for themselves.
As I read this book on Brehon Law and the ancient Druidic ways I find a similar law and social system in how they dealt with thievery and other crimes.
Another theme shared by both cultures is that letting a person go hungry, unclothed or unsheltered if they had nothing was considered very dishonorable (in fact, in Brehon Law, if one turned away a starving or freezing traveler, this was an offence against the law and the moral standing of that family in the community).
Today we have an abundance of thieves, violent criminals and scam artists. It seems an inordinately larger ratio of the population than was the case in those two cultures I described above, but why is that?
People like Sophia (who commented above) think that everyone is inherently self-interested and we are all just like vicious feral dogs fighting for scraps, but explorations of certain pockets of history and cultures from our past show that to be an incomplete and perhaps completely fallacious view of human nature and our place in this world.
So how does our modern society contrast those ancient ways of being and interacting? What is it about our modern day society that elicits such frequent expression of behavior such as thievery?
Well, for one I would say that it is the artificially programmed mentality that people like Sophia are indoctrinated into from a young age (and then go on to try and push on others in adulthood) but in addition to that I would say that the way we build and organize communities now is also a major influencing factor in that equation.
Psychopaths and sociopaths can navigate within a massive city so much easier than in a small community, thus the very existence of these unnatural and unsustainable hyper-concentrated gatherings of artificial human habitation breeds conditions that allow for thieves and murders to thrive and multiply (not in a genetic sense, but rather due to the way that psychopaths and sociopaths are drawn to positions of power and then they end up influencing others in their communities through what JC describes as "The Projections Of Psychopaths" https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/dissent-into-madness-projections
Then, above the modern city and its psychological influences, we have the psychological influence of the system of involuntary governance itself (which I explored in the essay above, and which again, is a way of organizing society and our interactions that breeds greed and criminal behavior to unnatural levels).
In short, today's industrialized city communities and statist regimes are thief factories, and the mechanisms which were shown to effectively mitigate or prevent such behavior much more effectively in certain ancient cultures cannot exist within a mega city or within communities driven by the violent coercion of the state.
Thus we see the imperative of creating parallel systems and intentional communities, that can re-plant the seeds of the true bonds of community, which are rooted in compassion, hard work, honesty and cherishing the natural world that such communities depend on to survive.
Thanks for the comment and thanks for asking some great questions.
electric fencing does not work for grizzlies.....
Anarchy, yes, another one on the problematic word list for sure! But, I do believe what we had before colonization was a kind of voluntarism for most of times and places, so it shouldn’t be terribly difficult to relearn such ways, right? I think we first need to give up the notion that ‘we’ were the colonizers, and ‘they’ were the colonized, because it is not a true picture at all.
Have you come across this book yet in your research? Looks interesting: https://archive.org/details/TheCelticDruids (by G. Higgins).
We are lucky to have so much information now at our fingertips, plus a bit of time and freedom to do the research, and wonderful like-minded, wise partners to share our journeys with!
Such good timing I had to share further what I’ve just been reading in 33 Myths of the System by Darren Allen: “Anarchy?! Don’t you realize that without the system—the state, capitalism, socialism, whatever—we would all be murdering, raping and exploiting each other? There would be anarchy!
“This word, ‘anarchy’ can only indicate the nightmares of hell for those who rule. Nevermind that enormous, well organized societies have existed without states or central control, nevermind that we have been murdering, raping and exploiting earth other only since the beginning of the system and the invention of states and that the perfected corporate-state is the most exploitative there has ever been, nevermind that we know in our hearts we do not need the system and its laws to rule over us and, finally, nevermind that cooperation, not competition, predominates in free nature—that only a madman, or a scientist, could find nature fundamentally, or even mostly, violent. Nevermind all that. “We need the system” say those who know full well that this is the precise opposite of the truth. The system needs us, and it always has.”
If cooperation not competition predominates nature then what are the male deer's doing when they are head butting each other to death for the privilege of inseminating a female?
What about when an Orca kills a shark and eats its liver discarding the rest?
There is nothing wrong with having a "system" that is in harmony with the Order of Nature and we do have that system, all though governments have tried to destroy it and that system is Free Market Capitalism which has been corrupted by Government into the current destructive system of Marxist Cronyism.
Awesome essay Gavin, so much to explore! I’ve also been wanting to learn more about the Celts and Druids for several years but have not yet ventured into that territory--just been collecting some titles for future study. I love studying history, real history, not fake war history and the nonsense shoved down our throats in school. It’s really tough to get to any degree of truth, as your meme demonstrates, so very much to unlearn before the real learning, or maybe, unveiling is a better word.
Speaking of words, I don’t like the word ‘love’ in this context, never have. I’ve complained about it a few times on my own blog, but I find it over-used and too cliched to have the impact it needs to have. Our culture no longer attaches the word “love” to the word “care”, as in, connecting the passive term to the active participation required for its flourishing. Most think of love as romantic love, the kind of thing which just rushes over you in a fit of hormonal intensity, which drives us to do things outside our comfort zone, to compromise for another, or devote ourselves to their well-being. The idea we should all ‘love one another’ is creepy to me! I’m being a bit of a ‘word Nazi’ perhaps 😀 but words do cast spells. If the word is not casting the right spell, what good is it? After all, most folks say they love nature. My mom believes she loves nature--but that is the love of nature from the comfort of her new couch in her climate-controlled house far too large for one old lady looking out her window at the bird feeder from Walmart in the still rapidly-growing city suburbs. We need another word, imo. If I had a better one I’d offer it, but I keep looking. “Courage” if we kept the “coeur” (heart) in it? Maybe coin a new word?! -‘Coeurcare’ -- “heartcare” LOL! 😂. I’ll keep working on it!!
You mentioned kindness being perceived as weakness in our culture--so true. And, even worse, sensitivity is perceived as weakness as well. Yet it is precisely sensitivity that we should be cultivating. Once we become sensitive to our surroundings, we become in tuned, we start hearing what it needs, it starts to feel very reciprocal, and that feels magical!
And on studying history, ‘alternative’ history as they are calling it, I’ve learned one crucial thing that I now accept as true. In the US there were many centuries, which are pretty much scrubbed from our mainstream history, where ‘civilized’ city centers existed, relatively peacefully, with ‘natives’ in the large expanse of wilderness (aka ‘unincorporated’) areas. Movement between ‘civilized’ people and ‘wilderness’ people was fairly common during this time. The ‘mound-builders’ peacefully co-existed not only with neighboring tribes but also with those living in the well-established city centers, many of which were destroyed. I find contemplating this hidden history more compelling than the popularized narratives, which have been mostly written from the standpoint of conquered peoples, who have long been colonized. (Let’s not forget, the ‘modern Europeans’ were not the first or only populations living side-by-side with the indigenous peoples--the floods of populations came after the lands were made ‘safe’ but there were many different races here for ages before that). This has led me to believe the Constitution was never truly a ‘founding document’ and never worked as (perhaps) was intended, was not approved of by the populations who lived here at that time, and was more like a ‘conquest document’ forcing laws onto populations which did not want, need or care for them. In other words, before Africa was colonized, the US was colonized, and there were not just ‘indigenous’ or ‘uncivilized’ peoples here at the time.
So nice to share ideas like this, thank you so much for your compelling work that has the power to get us all pondering and talking about the important, indeed crucial, topics to take back our history, our nature and our true selves!! 🤗
Care is Old English caru, cearu "sorrow, anxiety, grief," also "burdens of mind; serious mental attention," in late Old English also "concern, anxiety caused by apprehension of evil or the weight of many burdens," from Proto-Germanic *karō "lament; grief, care" (source also of Old Saxon kara "sorrow;" Old High German chara "wail, lament;" Gothic kara "sorrow, trouble,
The meaning "charge, oversight, attention or heed with a view to safety or protection" is attested from c. 1400; this is the sense in care of in addressing (1840). The meaning "object or matter of concern" is from 1580s. To take care of "take in hand, do" is from 1580s; take care "be careful" also is from 1580s.
So care is an action.
Love does not require action. Love is inertial, accelerative and certainly not the "feelings" of rushing hormones which is "lust".
Interestingly, the Greeks had 8 words for love.
1 Eros is physical love or sexual desire. Eros is the type of love that involves passion, lust, and/or romance
2 Philia is affectionate love. Philia is the type of love that involves friendship.
3 Agape is often defined as unconditional, sacrificial love. Agape is the kind of love that is felt by a person willing to do anything for another, including sacrificing themselves, without expecting anything in return. Philosophically, agape has also been defined as the selfless love that a person feels for strangers and humanity as a whole. Agape is the love that allows heroic people to sacrifice themselves to save strangers they have never met.
4 Storge is familial love. Storge is the natural love that family members have for one another.
5 Mania is obsessive love. Mania is the kind of “love” that a stalker feels toward their victim.
6 Pragma is practical love. Pragma is love based on duty, obligation, or logic
7 Philautia is self-love. No, not that kind. Philautia refers to how a person views themselves and how they feel about their own body and mind.
8 ludus
Original Latin: Bucking the trend, the word ludus comes from Latin rather than Greek. In Latin, lūdus means “game” or “play,” which fits with the type of love it refers to. One possible Greek equivalent is the word ερωτοτροπία, meaning “courtship.”
Ludus is playful, noncommittal love. Ludus covers things like flirting, seduction, and casual sex.
Mishelle, Just a note about the word love. From my perspective, just bcuz the population has distorted the actual meaning of the word love, doesn't mean we should find a new word to replace it. Instead, we should take its actual meaning and embody it. Unconditional love fills us at birth and we give it to all that hold us, without discrimination. It isn't until we begin to understand what our parents, teachers and others who came here before us are saying, that we start to alter our ways and choose only certain beings (humans and animals) to love. However, in truth, love was meant to be shared with all as we connect. Love is an energy, not just an emotion and as such we can love anything or anyone just by releasing some of that energy towards it. We can love nature (as your mother believes she does) or true history ( as you say you do) and we can love people we do not know, as well as those who believe they have an aversion to us. Love isn't about an exchange. Love isn't meant to be given to be recieved. Rather it is an energy that spills over from what is within us and like one gets dampened with the water spilling over from a water fall, those who are filled with unconditional love will exude it and shower others with sprinklings of love. Unconditional love, is true love and has nothing to do with having to tolerate behavior that doesn't work for us. We can love from afar if that is what we choose but that doesn't mean we stop loving. In closing, I send you much love from my heart to yours.
So when an Orca kills a shark to consume its liver, the Orca is not acting out of its self interest, it is doing this out of love for the shark?
What are you talking about?
I am not sure how my comment got attached to your comment. I was commenting on Mishelle Shepards comment about "cooperation, not competition, predominates in free nature" It doesn't, it is more a harmony that is the order of Nature, not cooperation, not balance, harmony.
I also earlier commented on the Greeks 8 different words for love depending on the kind of love it is.
I totally agree with your statement that love is energy all though humanity has no real understanding of what energy is. They think it is force and motion which is the loss of energy like an explosion.
Like you said, love is like something that is full, a better word would be inertial, or pure potential and what we experience as feelings is not love but rather the loss of its potential.
Similar to the concept you tried to convey with the water fall. But a water fall is not spilling from excess water, it is a drop in the pathway of water that creates a water fall.
A spring that bubbles up from the earth would probably be a better example after all, water is created from the earth the same as hydrocarbons from the pure potential of the earth center dynamo of pure potential manufacturing all that hydrogen powered by the sun through the poles and under all that pressure of the mantle where the carbon and oxygen are found, that hydrogen binds to them creating water and hydrocarbons that then bubble up from the earth.
Yes, you are 100% correct, love does not do anything, it is the opposite of doing. One can love something and do nothing for it or to it. I love to watch the sunset. That is literally doing nothing, an inertial nonaction.
Thank you for explaining what your original comment under mine was about. Thank you also for sharing your perspectives on what i wrote and what you understand it to be. I am grateful.
many people have a dozen words for love....with more precise meanings.....
In order to respond, i would appreciate if you would explain what you mean by that specifically.
Hi Mishelle!
I really appreciate your elucidation on the limitations of the word "love" and how it's meaning is often warped and watered down in our modern reductionist/materialistic modern society. My wife calls it the "Me Society". Entire generations of self-entitled humans growing up being conditioned to think only of how each choice will benefit their own pleasure and profit, a very sad state of affairs indeed.
I see what you mean regarding the word love, and I like the idea of using a different word to describe what I was trying to speak about. I suppose I could add the word "unconditional" before the word love as that does get closer to what I was speaking of, though I am open to finding something even better. For now that will have to do. I will meditate on this further. Thank you for holding up the mirror for me in this way.
Thank you for sharing your insights and knowledge of the ancient peoples of what some call Turtle Island and Africa. I think your description of the "‘conquest document’ forcing laws onto populations which did not want" is very apt.
Here is some additional info regarding the ancient (stateless) Celtic/Druidic society.
"For nearly a millennium, the Irish lived without a state under a legal system known as Brehon Law.”
https://www.libertarianism.org/podcasts/portraits-liberty/when-ireland-was-stateless
I will also add this to the essay above.
I am grateful you read this super long post and that you are open minded enough to contemplate these aspects of history and present day governance systems.
Many hear anything like the word "anarchy" or even "voluntaryism" and totally shut down or start freaking out due to the deep conditioning we have all received that told us how "necessary" governments are in our lives.
I appreciate your candid observations and thoughtful comments and hope to discuss this topic more with you as time allows.
Instead of using anarchy or vuluntaryism, have you tried using "with out rulers"?